New Chinese Parking?

[namerich]

Hi Fka2000,

That's a good idea, although I'm new to message boards and don't know how to get a full section. If you know how, please let me know. In the meantime, I'll see if I have the ability to create one through the control panel. Regarding your two names...be glad to park them. Give us another week and we'll be open for business again.

NameRich

[touchring]

Originally Posted by namerich

Dear all,

Sorry for taking so long to get involved in this discussion. We've been extremely busy with an extensive upgrade that will resolve many of the issues brought up including resolution times and statistics. First, we'd like thank all of you for your interest in NameRich. Second, we want to assure you that we are very much a real company. Our focus is on China traffic monetization and .CN or China-related domain name investment. We've assembled a team of domain name professionals to provide technology and services to domainers in what is fast becoming the next hottest domain investment market.

We're looking forward to an open, candid and long-term relationship with anyone interested in working with us. This is new ground folks and as with any new frontier, there are challenges as well as great rewards. Our goal is to provide the most user-friendly, transparent and profitable China-related parking program available. We are heavily targeting international users such as yourselves which is why we actually launched our English version before our Chinese version which is coming next month.

We're going to be starting a new thread named "NameRich" under the Parking section. We're looking forward to seeing you there!

Best regards,

NameRich

Are u using Sedo? That won't work in china.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

Are u using Sedo? That won't work in china.

Are you completely stupid?

Do you think Fabulous and Domain Sponsor use Sedo as well?

[Alphamale]

they are using their own proprietry parking pages inside for traffic from withinside China, and Sedo for outside of China

[Drewbert]

Originally Posted by Fka200

Awesome! Now I can park my 2 Chinese Domains.

Maybe you guys should get a whole section instead of a thread. Mods? Can that be possible instead? I feel like it will benefit us more.

Let's see some revenue being produced by their system before we give them too much credit.

[namerich]

Hi all,

Alphamale is correct. We are serving landing pages that we have developed inhouse with local Chinese advertisers. For users in China, they will land on these pages which are 100% in Chinese and with 100% local Chinese advertisers (for an example that we've opened to international to see, visit: www.caibai.com). For non-Chinese users, they are directed to Sedo pages since we are not focused on monetizing non-China traffic. Now the question comes up, "Can I use Sedo optimization tools to optimize pages for non-China traffic" The answer is in the negative as we don't have the ability to third party their tools. The main point here though is that NameRich monetization is best under two scenarios: 1. A domains' majority of traffic is from China, or 2. The domainer has the ability to geo-target their traffic and forward only China traffic to NameRich at the DNS level.

Keep the questions coming!

NameRich

[Alphamale]

Question: some of our domains are dual meaning.

for example they will mean something in Japanese and in Simplified (and/or Traditional) Chinese

If a name like this was parked with you, what would a Japanese visitor see? - would he see the Sedo page that is geo targetted to Japanese ads?

and how is the Sedo revenue collected? do they pay you, you pay us?

you see there are a lot of domain names that fall into this category, and at the moment we have to choose which one do we sacrifice Japanese or Chinese..

the holy grail would be to geo target both. and if you could hook in with NameDrive instead of Sedo it would be the icing on the cake (or better still, give us the choice)

[blastfromthepast]

Originally Posted by namerich

For users in China, they will land on these pages which are 100% in Chinese and with 100% local Chinese advertisers (for an example that we've opened to international to see, visit: www.caibai.com).

I don't see an ICP number at the bottom of that page.

[namerich]

Hi Alphamale,

Thanks for the question. Yes, there are some instances where Japanese and Chinese characters are the same yet have different meanings. In such instances I think the decision on where to park them would come down to which parking program yields the highest revenue. Since our international traffic is monetized through a third party provider, revenue from international traffic that is shared with the domainer MAY be lower than if parked directly with that or another third party like NameDrive. Again, NameRich is focused on China traffic monetization so one should try their best to determine which of their domains will receive a majority of China traffic, that is, unless the domainer themselves can geo target at the DNS level and only send NameRich their China traffic. In this sense, you really do have the choice of which international provider to use, although not necessarily through NameRich. I'd be glad to learn more about why you believe NameDrive is your preferred choice specifically for Japan traffic.

To answer your question about what a Japanese visitor would see through the NameRich platform, they should see a Japanese landing page as I believe Sedo has Japanese language pages which do resolve in Japan. However, I have neither tested nor confirmed this.

Regarding payment on international traffic, revenue from international traffic is listed separately from China traffic revenue in our stats but is payed out together as a total revenue sum.

All this said, we are continuing to explore and implement the best monetization solutions for both China and international traffic. For now, we hope that our current solution can be sufficient for our existing and new customers.

NameRich

Hi blastfromthepast,

What's an ICP number? Just kidding :-) Good eye. For those who don't know what an ICP number is, it stands for Internet Content Provider and is a license issued by the Chinese Ministry of Information Industry, the governmental regulatory body that oversees communications and media in China. An ICP license is required by law for any online entity conducting commercial business online in China and is a rather difficult approval to obtain.

You may also have noticed that NameRich.com does not have an ICP license listed on it. That is because NameRich.com is an English language website targeting the international market, not China. NameRich.cn is our Chinese version website (launching mid-May) and DOES have an ICP license. The license applies to NameRich's landing pages as they are a service provided under NameRich.cn. However, they do not have to have the ICP license number listed on them.

Thanks for bringing this topic up as it give others an opportunity to learn about some of the complexities of conducting online business in China.

NameRich

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

anyone having any joy with this?

either my names are not resolving, the stats are screwed or i got no visitors?

can someone China side post a screen shot of what resolves for this name: xn--hwt516l.com

outside China it just resolves to a Sedo page

thanks

Here's your screen, basically just a static parking page. The header, 都市指南 means "city guide".

[Drewbert]

Have they keyword optimised that page, or is it all the sma eno matter what the domain is?

Anyone seeing any revenue coming in yet?

DOPA sure is sucking heavily right now.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Drewbert

Have they keyword optimised that page, or is it all the sma eno matter what the domain is?

Anyone seeing any revenue coming in yet?

DOPA sure is sucking heavily right now.

Looks to me a one size fits all \template.

[namerich]

Hi all,

Thank you Touchring for posting a screenshot of our current parking template. A couple of things to point out:

1. the particular domain shown here is an IDN. Currently it shows the punicode characters but will soon show the Chinese characters upon resolution.

2. Correct, this is a general template. As you know, the Chinese language and pinyin translations are a complicated issue. Therefore setting relevancy for domains and the pages that they resolve to will take some time to develop (if it's going to be done right which we aim to do) However, we will be launching some new templates later this month that will provide more optimization.

3. Regarding keywords, again, this is related to the linguistic nuances of the Chinese language and PinYin and so we are working with our ad feed provider on a way to enable english speaking users to associate english keywords with their domains which our system will in turn translate to Chinese and be associated with the domain(s) and the ads displayed.

4. Regarding revenue: many of our customers are seeing revenue from their parked domains. It goes without saying, that the quality of the traffic is highly related to ctr's. Although our current parking page is generic, we are seeing encouragingly higher ctr's than our previous parking page which was 100% text.

NameRich

[gammascalper]

Does the 'Processing' notice go away as soon as there is traffic to domains?

I've had the red 'Processing' notice up for the last several days, under the 'Parking Revenue' screen.

[Alphamale]

Originally Posted by gammascalper

Does the 'Processing' notice go away as soon as there is traffic to domains?

I've had the red 'Processing' notice up for the last several days, under the 'Parking Revenue' screen.

i think it does, because if you widen the date range you get to see stats instead.


when is the system upgrade scheduled to finish? it's been upgrading since April 13th - that has to be the longest upgrade in I.T history

i'd like to add more domains

[Rubber Duck]

Well if you are still seeking to add domains, we can only assume that you are convinced this is the way forward!

Originally Posted by Alphamale

i think it does, because if you widen the date range you get to see stats instead.


when is the system upgrade scheduled to finish? it's been upgrading since April 13th - that has to be the longest upgrade in I.T history

i'd like to add more domains

[Alphamale]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Well if you are still seeking to add domains, we can only assume that you are convinced this is the way forward!

actually i added half of my Chinese names as an experiment, and left the other half at Dopa

it's a tight race, neck and neck all the way - but Namerich are leading by 2 cents, so i thought i'd move the rest over, but i can't seeing as the "upgrade" is still happenig.

[gammascalper]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

i think it does, because if you widen the date range you get to see stats instead.


when is the system upgrade scheduled to finish? it's been upgrading since April 13th - that has to be the longest upgrade in I.T history

i'd like to add more domains

I see, thanks. There're no new stats because they're doing an upgrade.

I see my old traffic when I make start date earlier and I get this after drilling down into a domain, and it looks like it stops cold on 4-13:

2007-04-13 1 0 0 % RMB 0.00 € 0.000
2007-04-12 1 0 0 % RMB 0.00 € 0.000
2007-04-11 7 2 28.6 % RMB 1.45 € 0.000
2007-04-08 6 1 16.7 % RMB 0.05 € 0.000

[namerich]

Hi All,

Regarding stats: Currently, if there are no stats for a given day, the system will display "processing" even if there are stats for other days in the selected date range. Without getting too detailed, the basic reason for this is so that we do not have to log "0's" in the database for domains with no traffic, thus reducing the time you have to wait to see stats. However, this issue should be resolved after the upgrade.

Regarding the upgrade: Most of the actual technical work has already been completed. However, as many of you know, China's Internet is heavily regulated. As a result, we have to work with our partners and the authorities to make sure that our system conforms to both technical and political policies. China just returned from a weeklong holiday, which added to the delay. We plan to begin accepting names again by next week.

We appreciate all of your patience and the good discussions.

NameRich

Originally Posted by gammascalper

I see, thanks. There're no new stats because they're doing an upgrade.

I see my old traffic when I make start date earlier and I get this after drilling down into a domain, and it looks like it stops cold on 4-13:

2007-04-13 1 0 0 % RMB 0.00 € 0.000
2007-04-12 1 0 0 % RMB 0.00 € 0.000
2007-04-11 7 2 28.6 % RMB 1.45 € 0.000
2007-04-08 6 1 16.7 % RMB 0.05 € 0.000

Hi Gammascalper,

Do you see any stats after 4/13? Although we stopped accepting new domains on that date, stats should be posted for any domains added prior to that date.

NameRich

[gammascalper]

Originally Posted by namerich

Hi Gammascalper,

Do you see any stats after 4/13? Although we stopped accepting new domains on that date, stats should be posted for any domains added prior to that date.

NameRich

Now I do, thank you. I repointed my names to your program and it looks like it takes a few days for stats to show up.