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Old 28th March 2007, 10:27 AM
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Every day the conversation grows

Every day now it seems someone is blogging about Japanese domain names. In this case below, this SEO blogger has realized that Japanese IDN are getting top rankings in Yahoo and is recommending them to his readers. He made me chuckle to myself when he wrote, "The major keywords have already been taken, but compound keywords still seem readily available." Enter the second level of the pyramid.
Wa haha ha


http://afi001.seesaa.net/article/36916311.html
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日本語ドメインの有用性について考えてみます。

ひでまろさんのメルマガで日本語ドメインについて書かれていました。

私も以前から気にはなっていました。

まずSEOに関してです。

日本語ドメインは、どうもSEOに有効なようです。


試しに、ヤフーで「ポールスミス 財布」と検索してください。

他サイトの言及になってしまいますが、「ポールスミス 財布」というキーワードで2位になっているサイトがあります。
(3月26日現在)

このサイトを作成している方は、日本語ドメインを使っています。


実際のところ、「ポールスミス 財布」というキーワードは結構ニッチで、上位表示しやすいキーワードです。

検索回数がとても多く、月間約3万回も検索されています。
(検索結果数はヤフーで約46万件、グーグルで約48万件です)

つまり、このキーワードで上位表示できれば、アクセス数も確保でき、アフィリエイト報酬につながる「稼げるキーワード」なんです。


「ポールスミス 財布」と検索した場合、上記で紹介したサイトはヤフーで2位でした。

グーグルでは確認できませんでした。

テンプレートの加減もあると思いますが、日本語ドメインは上位表示しやすそうなことがわかります。



他のキーワードはどうでしょうか。

超ビッグキーワードの「ルイヴィトン」、この日本語ドメインを使って、表示されているサイトもあります。

ヤフーでは10位以下ですが、400万件以上の検索数がある中でこの順位はなかなかすごいです。



「グッチ 財布」というキーワードをヤフーで検索してみましょう。

日本語ドメインを使ったサイトが10位以内に入っています。
(おそらくポールスミスのサイトを作成した方と同じ人)

「グッチ」という単体キーワードでも20位以内に入っています。


日本語ドメインがSEOに有効であるといち早く気づいたアフィリエイターが、日本語ドメインを使ってサイトを作成し、SEOをかけて上位表示させているという現状がわかったと思います。


現在のところ、無料ブログで日本語ドメインを使えるのはSeesaaだけです。(他にあったら教えてください)

日本語ドメインは1年間で1000円ぐらいで取得できます。


取得したばかりのドメインは、エイジングフィルタにかかってしまい、検索エンジンに表示されづらいですが、先のことを考えたらとっておくべきだと思います。


メジャーなキーワードはとられてしまっていますが、複合キーワードは結構取れるようです。

物販アフィリエイトやアドセンスにも有効な日本語ドメイン。

今のうちに取得しておくことをおすすめします。


安く取得できるサイトはこちら↓
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Old 28th March 2007, 10:38 AM
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

Great news rhys!

Compound terms will keep fuelling the market for years to come yet, as shown in ascii.

Thanks for the report - please keep us informed on further local IDN buzz...
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

Yeah I've noticed this for a while
I believe it's going to go like this
Bloggers are changing to IDN domains first & talking about them.
This is making people more familiar
It really doesn't matter about those old IDN sites because they are mirrored sites & they don't promote the IDN urls (most)
It's the new development that will matter.
That's going to start with young people, there are no internet rules for them.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

How would you guys gauge the feeling amongst these bloggers as to the mass regging of key terms that has already happened?

Is there any sense that many Japanese domainers may have 'missed the boat'?

Or not a real issue?
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Yeah I've noticed this for a while
I believe it's going to go like this
Bloggers are changing to IDN domains first & talking about them.
This is making people more familiar
It really doesn't matter about those old IDN sites because they are mirrored sites & they don't promote the IDN urls (most)
It's the new development that will matter.
That's going to start with young people, there are no internet rules for them.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

I have yet to read anything like that Seamo. The blogs I have read have been either from SEO guys and by your average blogger who is looking for an appropriate memorable domain for their ramblings.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

What is it with you guys?

Last night I put up a large selection of Corporate sites on here. This morning all you are talking about is the message getting out via blogging.

It is like watching a repeat of "Little Britain"!
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Computer says no.

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Re: Every day the conversation grows

I don't know what "Little Britain" is RD. But corporate sites, company sites, amateur sites, news releases, and what the blogosphere contains are all relevant to understand what is about to happen in Japan. If you'd like I'd be happy to stop the posts and keep them to myself. It's more time for me to reg compound domains. Chuckle.

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(Cough)
Another enigmatic post Drew. ? ? ?

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Old 28th March 2007, 11:11 AM
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

Well traffic or not. Big Corporate site development is happening, and it is happening in Japan.

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/1020...hese-guys.html

The point is that the key element content, that many thought would take years to arrive is arriving and on cue, as predicted by the little yellow toy.

Once some of these sites get indexed, because the Japanese are so heavily reliant on Search, and because these will out page rank the ASCII version, the Japanese will be quickly familiarised with IDN.

Whether this means that they will all immediately start typing-in, it is too early to say, but up to this point the Naysayeres are about 6 goals behind!

No I am not suggesting that Blog material is of no Interest, but what I am saying is that it is a bit like attending Neighbourhood Watch when the most happening party in town is going on right next door!

Big company sites are the key are they are starting to get rolled out in Japan. We have already seen an explosion of Corporate site in China, but that could have been put down to political coercion.

Now it is clear that most companies are simply waiting for browser support to arrive before launching their offerings.

This phenomenon will change everything. It means you IDN investments are assured. The income may not be here yet, but we now know that it is coming And coming soon!

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I don't know what "Little Britain" is RD. But corporate sites, company sites, amateur sites, news releases, and what the blogosphere contains are all relevant to understand what is about to happen in Japan. If you'd like I'd be happy to stop the posts and keep them to myself. It's more time for me to reg compound domains. Chuckle.



Another enigmatic post Drew. ? ? ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/ar...99003526.shtml

One of the regular sketches set in a Welsh village has a character that insists he is the only poof in the village, when in fact it is about the Campest place in the Universe. Very funny in small doses.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

I look at those URLs & Bloggers regging & talking about IDNs differently.
If a company has their site URL in IDN(from 4 or 5 years ago) & non IDN & they don't promote it you'll never know they even have an IDN domain.
The new buyers are actively promoting the fact they have IDNs
I couldn't find that on the older corporate sites.
The older sites could be at the point where you're not even sure if they even remember they have an IDN...
You can't really base Japan's market on things done like 4 or 5 years ago. It's what these young people will do that will determine how IDNs will be used.
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Corporate sites, company sites, amateur sites, news releases, and what the blogosphere contains are all relevant to understand what is about to happen in Japan. If you'd like I'd be happy to stop the posts and keep them to myself. It's more time for me to reg compound domains. Chuckle.
Keep all the news and information coming, what is exciting is that it is happening on lots of levels, big and small.

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With respect that is nonsense.

If these were created 4 or 5 years ago, just like your developments they would be indexed by the major search engine and would be drawing in huge amounts of traffic, because as we have been told over and over again that is how Japanese users surf the net.

Sites of this magnitude could not reasonably have gone under the Radar for so long especially when I have been using the same bloody techniques to look for them for over 12 months now.

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I look at those URLs & Bloggers regging & talking about IDNs differently.
If a company has their site URL in IDN(from 4 or 5 years ago) & non IDN & they don't promote it you'll never know they even have an IDN domain.
The new buyers are actively promoting the fact they have IDNs
I couldn't find that on the older corporate sites.
The older sites could be at the point where you're not even sure if they even remember they have an IDN...
You can't really base Japan's market on things done like 4 or 5 years ago. It's what these young people will do that will determine how IDNs will be used.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

These sites also have an ASCII URL they are all promoting the ASCII URL (my assumption by looking through a few)
They benefit IDNs but people are not going to get used to IDNs through these few old mirrored sites.
It's these young people that are actively promoting & discussing IDN use.
The older site benefit things but they actively don't try to reach an audience.
Young bloggers are doing this when they switch to IDN domains.
Rhys can say his opinion but this is also what I've seens from Bloggers & said in the past.
It's new development, young people, & bloggers that will introduce IDNs to Japan.
Corporations in mass won't change until they see it first. Young people are going to try on their own.

I get questions via Mixi about IDNs from Japanese.
Young people are at the trying to develop with them stage right now.
There's also tons of IDNs registered by Japanese but it seems like 80% of the best not bought by one of us resolve no where.
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These are not mirrored sites.

It would appear you assume too much!
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These are not mirrored sites.

It would appear you assume too much!
http://www.wind.ne.jp/isuzu/ First one in the batch
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

All very good and exciting news.

Young Japanese are promoting awareness and starting use of idns; this will fundamentally increase the value of good Japanese idns as it will certainly result in huge increase of registrations (second tier in quality).

Big corporations are starting developing sites on idns or setting up complete mirror sites to their existing old sites. Once these idn sites get indexed and people get used to it, I believe the type-ins will come.

They both will soon make many idnfers smile.

Thanks to RD and rhys for sharing the good stuff with us.
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Re: Every day the conversation grows

Second one in the batch
http://www.sega.co.jp/

Mirrors

Having the exact same accessible through two or more different URLs

You shouldn't assume they aren't...
How could Sega "only" use the IDN it's too early

Third one
www.shion.co.jp

Shall I go on? They are mirrored, it's a fact...
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I didn't and they are not!
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I didn't and they are not!

Perhaps you don't have an understanding of what I'm saying
The site exist at two URL

http://群馬インターネット.jp/
Is exactly the same as
http://www.wind.ne.jp/


http://セガ.jp/
is exactly the same as
http://www.sega.co.jp/


http://シオン.jp/
is exactly the same as
http://www.shion.co.jp/

I'm just giving you the exact URL that these companies promote.
& you're telling me it's not a mirror

How can one pick the first 3 & give an example of all 3 on why they are mirrors
& still be told they aren't.
Please tell me why they are not Mirrors?
I think we're all listening...
I didn't say it's bad either, I'm just saying they use a mirror, but even though I found the URLs, they don't really exist right?
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Yes, the content is duplicated, but if you look carefully these are Cloned Sites. I have previously defined Cloned Sites as complete content replicas that have had all their internal links ripped out and replaced with IDN URLs. These are separately hosted stand alone sites that will replace the ASCII version. Something that you have pulbicly gone on the record and stated would never happen.

Of course they need to maintain a ASCII.co.jp equivalent and continue to publicise themselves in that way, under the mistaken assumption that some Japanese do actually want to type in, until browser support arrives. Once that happens the ASCII Urls will get dropped like a stone.
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