Asian IDN Domainers Tokyo Conference, Nov. 2006

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

I understand Edwin. but it is amazing u have such a poor idea of Tokyo as all people taking trains and buying in 100yen store. Why to live in "poor" Tokyo then? Thanks for your good wishes.

Sorry, I don't have a poor opinion of Tokyo at all. I like living here a lot. Not sure where you get that impression.

[donwebcorleone]

Originally Posted by Edwin

Sorry, I don't have a poor opinion of Tokyo at all. I like living here a lot. Not sure where you get that impression.

Not hard feelings Edwin. I just found a bit surprising that you worried so much about a hotel charge. i think that if you and me keep buying japanese IDN domains is because we know there is money in Japan. Or that at least if the japanese get interested in IDNs, at least a tiny bit as the widespread trend of investing in the stock market is now, we know it wont become hard to sell one IDN in good money. Im too optimistic, and i feel there are few places like Tokyo to get money fast if you have good stuff.

Anyway im gonna share some photos of Tokyo to cheer up to visit Japan. Whether there is conference or not, Tokyo is a great city to travel. Many of these photos are mine, photography is my hobby! ; ) but kidding some are my pics, some arent mine at all. I just like to have good pics of Tokyo that i can use when i travel abroad and people asked me to show them Tokyo.



here is japanese shoppers in Omotesando last spring, famous shopping district in Tokyo. This one is mine.

[donwebcorleone]

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[donwebcorleone]

final two. i think these two won a contest, my german friend sent me. they are good. Both are in Shibuya.

[sarcle]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Not hard feelings Edwin. I just found a bit surprising that you worried so much about a hotel charge.

I don't think that's it at all. You have to remember that most of us aren't in college anymore. I think it was more a concern that it was going to turn into some sort of weird "porno party."

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by huronargentino

Don, i think you idea is great.
I am now writing a book realted to the domain industry and there is a whole chapter focused on IDNs.
This book (hope so) will be released in spanish for Argentina and Latin America. Hope to help this spread the domaining industry in this places.

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Me Too !! Huron thats interesting, would you like to share the Title, I have a Few in mind for my book , But on Another Note, DonWeb IM All in, Was just looking At Plane Ticket Rates, Good Prices for month in advance, about 600-700usd.... So count me in..... I agree the Meetings After the meetings are most inportant in business where i come from... That is where the best insight and Ideas come from... I also think that is awesome that you will be able to use Daves Name Tokyo to Promote, I think that Alone will Just Capture Peoples attention that we are on to something Very Serious...

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by thegenius1

Me Too !! Huron thats interesting, would you like to share the Title, I have a Few in mind for my book , But on Another Note, DonWeb IM All in, Was just looking At Plane Ticket Rates, Good Prices for month in advance, about 600-700usd.... So count me in..... I agree the Meetings After the meetings are most inportant in business where i come from... That is where the best insight and Ideas come from... I also think that is awesome that you will be able to use Daves Name Tokyo to Promote, I think that Alone will Just Capture Peoples attention that we are on to something Very Serious...

That is for nothing! I bet it cost 3 times that from Europe! Perhaps it would make sense to fly to the States and then on from there?

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

Real wealth is usually achieved by think out of the box and taking risks other consider imprudent, but this not a guaranteed recipe for success.

This is very TRUE , Think about 1 person in most family's that are Extremly successful and Rich, Went outside the Box... Many Many Examples of this, And I am proud to be one of those people on that Course, Also " Many Great Ideas where once Challenged with Violence by people with Mediocre Minds" , I never forege that Quote

[gammascalper]

DWC: You definitely have the enthusiasm and energy to pull this off.

I would think lead times for conference space and bulk hotel rooms at nice venues would be long - 9 to 12 months - so 2007 may be more realistic.

You'd also have to get some interesting and relevant speakers. Maybe some of your mates are at Google, Yahoo etc?

Have a look at www.targetedtraffic.com and see how they set it out.

It's a good idea. Count me in.

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

That is for nothing! I bet it cost 3 times that from Europe! Perhaps it would make sense to fly to the States and then on from there?

Yeah that may be a good idea dave, you may have to look into that, I may go there before Nov. just because it is not that expensive and to get some Asian Insight and inspiration

[donwebcorleone]

im glad im hearing motivation, thats the point to come and meet japanese people that are in the area of what you have IDNs, to set up accounts with japanese affiliates, register some trademarks if needed, who knows what else this conference can help you if everything goes well and happens.

more Tokyo view to inspire you...

this is the view from the lookout point of the Roppongi hills building complex, complex where the grand hyatt hotel is, place as i said we did the other conference last year and we hope to do this one at the end of the year.


this one is the building complex where is the Hyatt hotel of Lost in Translation that the other member and I mentioned. nice one. Shinjuku.



i hope these pics give you interest to come to Tokyo to the conference or at least one day to visit Japan.

[Rubber Duck]

At the risk of somebody shouting foul, I will make the following offer to any of you wishing to set a conference in any of the following centres:

xn--80adxhks.net москва Moscow
xn--mgbag5a2flx.net القاهرة Cairo
xn--j2bya4ch0f.net दिल्ली Delhi
xn--i1bm1ig9g.net मुंबई Mumbai/Hindi
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xn--12cgi8dk3avmg1fxd4cuf.net กรุงเทพมหานคร Bangkok/Thai

I will redirect the Url of any of the domains for a 12 month period Free of charge to any firm proposal with a designed Website for a conference on IDN in any of those centre, provided that those proposals are submitted to me by 1st September 2006. The site must also include a banner for this Forum on the front page.

[OldIDNer]

Tokyo looks awesome.

[touchring]

Yes, Tokyo is the largest metro city in the world.

Since Don put up photos of Tokyo, let me put up Shanghai's skyline. Shanghai real estate boom has peaked late last year. Prices at the high end has eased slightly.

The present city was developed over the past 15 years, before 1990, Shanghai was like a city stuck in the 1930s.

Shanghai (Towards Puxi shot):


Shanghai (Towards Pudong shot):

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Because in Japan, prostitution is okay. period. We dont have anything like protestants, catholics, etc. I myself dont see anything wrong with prostitution. I know foreigners see it as a sin. but anyway thats not the point of this thread.

Just for the record, I am not sure who you catagorize as "foreigners", but I would say that prostitution is huge business world wide- in just about every city in just about every country. It may not always be legal but it is "the worlds oldest profession"...and very little is done to stop it in the US. It is totally legal just outside of Las Vegas, as well as Amsterdam and many other cities worldwide. Catholics and Protesants have plenty of their own skeletons in thier closets and wish there "past problems" were only as minor as getting some from a prostitute!

On the real "Conference" subject, our company manages meetings and conventions, and we can give you a lot of experience if you are serious about planning. Rule number 1 is to prepare a RFP (request for proposal) and shop it to all the hotels with your preferred dates, amount of function space required and proposed range of hotel room rates. They will come back to you with bids, and value dates based on thier "holes" and you can negotiate from there.

The hotel will also want to know how much banquet Food and Beverage you will spend...if not they will charge you meeting room rental to make up for this. If you take a block of rooms, someone will have to be responsible for "the majority" of these rooms to be paid for, whether they sell or not. There is not any hotel that will hold rooms and space in "hopes" people come. So you can see some of the challenges... we are happy to give you a hand in setting up an RFP if you wish.

Good luck with bringing your idea to fruition. Bill

[Giant]

A great idea Don. But I think the timing is a bit too early.

Vista will be out in December, together with IE7 formal version. People need some time to upgrade their browse, and many products need time to adjust and utilize IDN. We probably won't see a big increase in traffic until Summer 2007. For any conference, we certainly want to give out some good news after the meetings, but I don't think we will have any in November 2006.

If the conference is organized in 2007, count me in. :-)

[donwebcorleone]

Edwin, if you can watch the program now on 日本テレビ　about entertainment clubs, you can getter a picture of the japanese business "diversion" you still dont know at all. Check out the people, the numbers of clubs, and specially the final bill they pay. Those are mid-level employees. for those, u cant watch, it is about talk enterntainment clubs where 2 or 3 hours of diversion cost $10.000 or a lot more in roppongi or ginza depending on the girl that do the talk. anyway as i said those are mid-level japanese employees and how the company pays their diversion. It is not sex, just talk clubs where employees go to talk and girl will say everything u wanna hear to increase your manhood, laugh at everything thing u said -no matter how stupid-, anyway cheer up your mood and ego, not sex again. well in this program tonight.

there are more than 2.000 clubs like these, only in Ginza and Ropongi. Not low-level employees have access or like them, but anyway another world that people doesnt know because maybe it is fully in japanese and i guess prices and style of diversion, just to go there and you doing the talking and girls that will pretend to be interested in what u say, to pay a lot of thousands of dollars per hour doesnt make sense for many people.

[Edwin]

You presume an awful lot considering you know NOTHING about me. It's vulgar and very irritating.

I know about those kinds of clubs (hard to miss them unless you live under a rock), I just don't know of anyone in my circle of acquaintances, former work colleagues and friends who would consider VISITING them.

There is no way you can spin it to suggest they have a mainstream, wholesome image. The "wide shows" love covering that kind of thing, because they love anything even remotely suggestive.

[donwebcorleone]

Originally Posted by Edwin

You presume an awful lot considering you know NOTHING about me. It's vulgar and very irritating.

I know about those kinds of clubs (hard to miss them unless you live under a rock), I just don't know of anyone in my circle of acquaintances, former work colleagues and friends who would consider VISITING them.

There is no way you can spin it to suggest they have a mainstream, wholesome image. The "wide shows" love covering that kind of thing, because they love anything even remotely suggestive.

Edwin, u dont even know a thing about this, so dont contradict me when i talk about social or business in Japan; about IDNs, u can but nothing more; these kind of "vulgar and pervert" diversions of the japanese represents a higher percentage of Japan GDP than the budget for defense or health in Japan opps..............and there are way more than 20.000 clubs related to sex-hostess-hosts industry only in Tokyo, i wonder if it is only me and my "vulgar" friends who goes every weekend, 20.000 clubs per night, and thats why they all keep in business and growing...

U can contradict me all u want about IDN, domains, etc., but about these kind of social and business aspects of japanese, i think u cant. i really cant guess where is that -all that great Japan social and business insight big picture knowledge you wanna make believe u have- comes from, maybe u work in the US Embassy? because being honest and "vulgar as u now call me" i find surprising the fact that someone who doesn't even speak japanese think he understands very well how millions of daily japanese -who doesn't speak even remotely a word of any foreign language or by far cant have an english conversation- behave or think. Unless now u wanna make us believe by miracle everyone you meet speaks english in Japan. I think your magic ball that sees everything about Japan must be awesome!

Some members here speak japanese, so they can judge with credibility other things. You better talk only about IDNs when it comes to Japan.

Edwin, you really pissed off... but it is not unethical to you or hypocritical to live out of the cheque of millions of vulgar japanese. and Dont call me vulgar again, or by extension, call vulgar the japanese because thousands of thousands of japanese like to visit or work in clubs, etc. Anyway today im tired of so much crap against me or Japan brought by "guests" in Tokyo, i have read here people saying japs, rabbit hutches, etc. now vulgar what thousands of japanese do as a work or for fun . Im not surprised why my japanese friends prefer only japanese forums. So i think im gonna move better to this japanese IDN forum where everyone is in the same, even when they are more limited in language skills for non japanese IDNs as members are only japanese.

Sayonara! and good luck to all! im tired. thanks to all who were nice!