Asian IDN Domainers Tokyo Conference, Nov. 2006

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Edwin, u dont even know a thing about this, so dont contradict me when i talk about social or business in Japan; about IDNs, u can but nothing more; these kind of "vulgar and pervert" diversions of the japanese represents a higher percentage of Japan GDP than the budget for defense or health in Japan opps..............and there are way more than 20.000 clubs related to sex-hostess-hosts industry only in Tokyo, i wonder if it is only me and my "vulgar" friends who goes every weekend, 20.000 clubs per night, and thats why they all keep in business and growing...

U can contradict me all u want about IDN, domains, etc., but about these kind of social and business aspects of japanese, i think u cant. i really cant guess where is that -all that great Japan social and business insight big picture knowledge you wanna make believe u have- comes from, maybe u work in the US Embassy? because being honest and "vulgar as u now call me" i find surprising the fact that someone who doesn't even speak japanese think he understands very well how millions of daily japanese -who doesn't speak even remotely a word of any foreign language or by far cant have an english conversation- behave or think. Unless now u wanna make us believe by miracle everyone you meet speaks english in Japan. I think your magic ball that sees everything about Japan must be awesome!

Some members here speak japanese, so they can judge with credibility other things. You better talk only about IDNs when it comes to Japan.

Edwin, you really pissed off... but it is not unethical to you or hypocritical to live out of the cheque of millions of vulgar japanese. and Dont call me vulgar again, or by extension, call vulgar the japanese because thousands of thousands of japanese like to visit or work in clubs, etc. Anyway today im tired of so much crap against me or Japan brought by "guests" in Tokyo, i have read here people saying japs, rabbit hutches, etc. now vulgar what thousands of japanese do as a work or for fun . Im not surprised why my japanese friends prefer only japanese forums. So i think im gonna move better to this japanese IDN forum where everyone is in the same, even when they are more limited in language skills for non japanese IDNs as members are only japanese.

Sayonara! and good luck to all! im tired. thanks to all who were nice!

Edwin lives in Tokyo and knows the language

Regarding domains, I've seen Edwin on these domain forums probably since 2002-2003 lol :P

[touchring]

I think we should keep to the domain business and not question or comment on other's 風俗, whatever one's personal opinion.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Edwin, u dont even know a thing about this, so dont contradict me when i talk about social or business in Japan; about IDNs, u can but nothing more; these kind of "vulgar and pervert" diversions of the japanese represents a higher percentage of Japan GDP than the budget for defense or health in Japan opps..............and there are way more than 20.000 clubs related to sex-hostess-hosts industry only in Tokyo, i wonder if it is only me and my "vulgar" friends who goes every weekend, 20.000 clubs per night, and thats why they all keep in business and growing...

U can contradict me all u want about IDN, domains, etc., but about these kind of social and business aspects of japanese, i think u cant. i really cant guess where is that -all that great Japan social and business insight big picture knowledge you wanna make believe u have- comes from, maybe u work in the US Embassy? because being honest and "vulgar as u now call me" i find surprising the fact that someone who doesn't even speak japanese think he understands very well how millions of daily japanese -who doesn't speak even remotely a word of any foreign language or by far cant have an english conversation- behave or think. Unless now u wanna make us believe by miracle everyone you meet speaks english in Japan. I think your magic ball that sees everything about Japan must be awesome!

Some members here speak japanese, so they can judge with credibility other things. You better talk only about IDNs when it comes to Japan.

Edwin, you really pissed off... but it is not unethical to you or hypocritical to live out of the cheque of millions of vulgar japanese. and Dont call me vulgar again, or by extension, call vulgar the japanese because thousands of thousands of japanese like to visit or work in clubs, etc. Anyway today im tired of so much crap against me or Japan brought by "guests" in Tokyo, i have read here people saying japs, rabbit hutches, etc. now vulgar what thousands of japanese do as a work or for fun . Im not surprised why my japanese friends prefer only japanese forums. So i think im gonna move better to this japanese IDN forum where everyone is in the same, even when they are more limited in language skills for non japanese IDNs as members are only japanese.

Sayonara! and good luck to all! im tired. thanks to all who were nice!

Hey Don,

Don' chuck in the towel! Life was just starting to get interesting. I know there are lots of guys on here love to read your postings. OK! some of its funny, perhaps some of it they don't believe or don't want to believe, but all of them read it.

It has become clear to me that living in a place doesn't ever give you a full picture of waht is going on. Perhaps Edwins views are valid, perhaps not. They certainly won't be the full picture, and neither will yours. Both of them though have a lot more real interest and credibility than mine. I can only apply my knowledge from a lot of other interesting places and try to extrapolate it. I use all your posting and many more besides to try to build a picture.

If you stay here and exchange you will learn more from us, and we from you. If you feel insulted by Edwin that is fine. It does not mean that any of the rest of think any more or less of you for that. There are certainly one or two people on this forum that get right up my nose at times, but it is best to try and act maturely and not loose control over it. I know public image is important in Eastern Culture, but just because you cannot get someone to agree to your point of view doesn't mean that you are necessarily wrong or have lost face. Far from it in Western Culture you individualism will bring esteem from your peers, whether they agree with you or not!

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by touchring

I think we should keep to the domain business and not question or comment on other's 風俗, whatever one's personal opinion.

Agreed..I think you and Edwin can discuss your moral dilemas with this issue by private message. Obviously there are strong feelings on both sides, and it is clear they aren't going to change here. The culture and traditions of your country should be respected by all.

DWC, your comments about this adult recreational side of Japan are certainly welcome as presented, with your intent being the business opportunties on the web for IDN marketing, and advertising to this huge market. Obviously this theme hit a nerve with some...so let the subject drop and go back to the intent of the thread, that being a Conference for IDNers.

[Edwin]

I said:

You presume an awful lot considering you know NOTHING about me. It's vulgar and very irritating.

The "vulgar and very irritating" refers to your presumption that you somehow know all about me, what I know, think or do. That's why it was in the same paragraph as "you presume an awful lot"!

It does NOT refer to the clubs or to you.

Re-read my post.

Relevant aside: I've been in Tokyo nearly 11 years. I've worked in several Japanese companies. I've been in the domain industry since late 1995/early 1996 and I used to run the very first domain name resource site on the Web (igoldrush.com).

[Giant]

I travel to Asia quite often, so I am quite used to the entertainment that Don was talking about.

I think Don is a very bright young man, very good in doing business, and he also possesses some sort of leadership skills. If he can learn to take criticism, that would be excellent.

Besides, I think Don should not look at Edwin's opinion as something negative, in fact, it is a good lesson for Don to learn now better than learn it later when he is a general manager or a CEO (that would cost him dearly).

When we are discussing business, always be serious and keep it strictly business. "Entertainment" should be mentioned only after the business discussion, with the clear signal that it is not part of the business.