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Old 28th March 2007, 04:33 PM
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Is DNAME required for ASCII?

>>CARY KARP: Our country -- the name of our country exists and there's many languages that exist and quite a large number of them are quite content with the ASCII repertoire. Where does that leave us? And I think one of the perpetual issues that tends to confuse IDN is the number of aspects of the IDN concerns that are not specific to IDN. So --
>>BRUCE TONKIN: Yeah. I mean, if I was just to use it in non-IDN characters, if I was to have the domain name dot Germany and the domain name dot Deutschland, they both can be expressed in non-IDN terms, but a -- an organization may wish to operate both of those and effectively alias the outcome. So it's interesting so to just consider it from that point of view.
>>CARY KARP: The concept and the conundrums attaching to the internalization of the domain name space are -- overlap but are not identical with the issues that attach to replacing ASCII with Unicode as the basic character set underlying what we're doing.
>>RAM MOHAN: But fundamentally, Bruce, I think you're right in the policy required here would not be necessarily just for IDNs, but it would be for that concept as a whole.

http://icann.org/meetings/lisbon/tra...um-28mar07.htm

Could be argued that sTLD such as dot Travel need to be translated into other languages as ASCII. I guess Travel doesn't mean anything in most Western European languages.

Furthermore, it would seem to me that if you allow Chinese registries that overlap in meaning with Commercial of dot Com then there is nothing to stop something similar happening in other langauges including Latin based ones. If we assume that dot Com is an English Extension, how many Latin languages could claim the need for a distinct extension for dot Com, if that principle were accepted in non-Latin languages?
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Re: Is DNAME required for ASCII?

Wow.

Opening the door for .unitedkingdom and .thepeoplesrepublicofchina
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Re: Is DNAME required for ASCII?

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Wow.

Opening the door for .unitedkingdom and .thepeoplesrepublicofchina
See? Human beings are not always wise, they hallucinate that they would feel better if they can see their country's name everywhere they go.

IDN.IDN is the dream of the very smart or of the very foolish, it can't be both. I just feel lucky IDN.IDN is not my cup of tea.

I call on all the IDN communities, let's start working on IDN.ascii at daytime, and dream about IDN.IDN at night. (don't waste our precious working hours)
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Re: Is DNAME required for ASCII?

This is why it is not wise to have a pompous country name like:

.UnitedKingdomofGreatBritainandNorthernIreland
.中华人民共和国

Next time you are creating a country name, think about the consequences.

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Wow.

Opening the door for .unitedkingdom and .thepeoplesrepublicofchina
Just be pleased you don't have to type:

الجماهيرية العربية الليبية الشعبية الإشتراكية العظمى ‎

Al-Jamāhīriyyah al-`Arabiyyah al-Lībiyyah aš-Ša`biyyah al-Ištirākiyyah al-`Udhmā

Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya

No wonder the Arabs miss the vowels out!

Actually it would seem I have had the pleasure of working in of the three longest.

Libya 59 Letters
Algeria 51 Letters
UK 45 Letters
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الجماهيرية العربية الليبية الشعبية الإشتراكية العظمى
UnitedKingdomofGreatBritainandNorthernIreland
中华人民共和国

Looks like the United Kingdom is still a longer name if you have the right Arabic font, and even without spaces!
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الجماهيرية العربية الليبية الشعبية الإشتراكية العظمى
UnitedKingdomofGreatBritainandNorthernIreland
中华人民共和国

Looks like the United Kingdom is still a longer name if you have the right Arabic font, and even without spaces!

Now we know where all the trees went to? :p
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Now we know where all the trees went to? :p
This is why Classical Chinese was such a good idea Touch.
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