Now the waiting game begins...

[yanni]

I personally have a bit over 200 that I regged since I started a couple of weeks ago.

Most are Greek, Russian, some French, Swedish and lately Ive been going after Portuguese.

It's surprising to me that a noob can still find some good single word generics in some of these languages.

The game isn't over for me, but I'm definately slowing down a bit.

I've got some "top" generics in Greek, although I'm not expecting much from this market until a few years down the road. Traffic is there but very small for generics of this caliber.

My Russians are second-rate generics (seems that it has been picked extremely well); but I still happen on a "semi-precious gem" here and there. I also manage to pick a completely meaningless term occasionally. Part of the game I suppose.

Portuguese still manages to produce a couple of nice ones every day; low traffic though. Seems the Brasilians love their .com.br

I only reg .coms; I see a lot of great keywords in .net but won't touch it.

The game isn't over for me yet, but I'm getting pickier as I go along, and my seconds list keeps growing...

[gammascalper]

Edwin

That's seriously impressive. 6 weeks and 1000+ domains.

Considering you live in Tokyo, what made you register so many Russian domains? I'd be interested to know what you see in them.

Originally Posted by yanni

Portuguese still manages to produce a couple of nice ones every day; low traffic though. Seems the Brasilians love their .com.br

The imobiliárias.com trade sets a nice benchmark for portugese domains.

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by gammascalper

Considering you live in Tokyo, what made you register so many Russian domains? I'd be interested to know what you see in them.

Lots of good stuff still available, and while I can't read the language it's at least not as unapproachable as Chinese, Arabic or Korean would be. In fact, I'm slowly getting the hang of a few words... It's a large enough market, plus it seemed relatively easy to find potential wordlists, and tools like Yandex provide a semi-decent picture of what's going on.

[touchring]

I got quite a few portuguese names:

criança.com Child Portuguese 27089
tradição.com Tradition Portuguese 25276
finanças.com Finance Portuguese 15969
câmbio.com Exchange Portuguese 7933

European names tend to have higher views than other names on a per capita "internet user base size" which i suspect is because there is no need to change IME when keying in the extension.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Edwin

I've crossed my goal of registering 1,000 "IDNs with potential" and I've decided to pull out of the registration game for a while. There's still a lot out there, but every time I delve into the IDN mines I have to go just that little bit further to find anything. It's now time for the rising IDN tide to lift my boat along with all the others. Plus if IDN really do take off as we hope, I'm pretty sure that I'm set for life with what I've already collected.

Is anyone else ready to play the waiting game, or are you all planning to keep registering and registering? Just curious...

I have been financing new registrations through sales, but this not really a longer-term strategy, as the rule of diminishing returns undoubtedly applies. In the longer-term I think it is just a question of monitoring the bank account once in a while to ensure that the Parking Sites are not ripping me off too drastically. Let face it having too many domains is just going to interfere with your leisure time!

Originally Posted by thefabfive

I've been winding down too but haven't been able to stop completely. Although when I begin looking for IDNs now I almost draw a blank on where to start. I'm trying to think of sectors that may have been missed but there really aren't many.

I guess it is time to sit down and start developing. Although I stopped developing my English domains to get IDNs. Now I'm not sure which to do.

In India the surface has barely been scratched, but there appears to be a lot of speculator traffic now!

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Hi! Jeff, it is my opinion.anyway im not an expert. and i think i never said bad to some of you. "not so good" for a quick sale doesnt mean "bad" at the long term. my simple opinion as you worry about your budget. register at your discretion. but really i think u can get better value with a domain like quickloans.jp cheapcomputers.jp than if u register hotelsnyc.jp if you cant find single words . i think, who knows. ask Dave.

Don't ask me gor Chr*st S*ke, I am already in trouble for expressing opinions on subjects I know nothing about! And please bear in mind that I have never visited the Far East or have any close contacts there that I can use for advice on.

My view, however, is that one word keywords are enourmously superior to two as domain names. As search terms two will often give a more useful set of search results which is why they get high Overture scores, but as domains get longer the Overture correlation weakens. Three words might work for a Yahoo search, but it won't generally work as a domain.

If you have to go for two words then stay as Generic as possible. USHotels.com has to be better than NYCHotels.com. Words like quick, free, cheap, are enourmously generic and limit the damage done by going to two words, but that damage is still very signficant.

[donwebcorleone]

Sorry, Dave. my apologies. i know what u mean in what happens when u give your opinion.

Okay, im not the expert as everyone knows, but it is not true that Yahoo search engine "work" different than Google. As it is that case and Yahoo Japan rules here, instead of Google maybe we shouldnt think so much in Google SE but Yahoo SE regarding our japanese IDN. anyway perhaps in a couple of years Google might become powerful in Japan, meanwhile it is Yahoo search engine that we should worry about regarding japanese IDNs domains as japanese use Yahoo the most and im not talking about OVT as u can guess. Anyway im not an expert.

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Okay, im not the expert as everyone knows,

DWC- This might work to your advantage! You are maybe thinking of keywords and domain names that appeal to the average person. These are words they will use to search, so you have good strategy. Plus, with the big number of registrations you mention you are taking, even if 20% become big winners you have done well! And it sound like you are not slowing down, so thats even more opportunity for market share.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by bwhhisc

DWC- This might work to your advantage! You are maybe thinking of keywords and domain names that appeal to the average person. These are words they will use to search, so you have good strategy. Plus, with the big number of registrations you mention you are taking, even if 20% become big winners you have done well! And it sound like you are not slowing down, so thats even more opportunity for market share.

Yes, you are damned right there. Being clever usually doesn't help too much. The guy that you are relying on to do the type-in isn't exactly Einstein!

[donwebcorleone]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

Yes, you are damned right there. Being clever usually doesn't help too much. The guy that you are relying on to do the type-in isn't exactly Einstein!

Dave, or everyday i understand less english or u talked in such kind of methaphorical sense that i couldnt catch it at all.

Bwhhisc, the fact the .jp registration arent into millions makes me reach that level, as more registrations happen in .jp my percentage will go down. although it is only 0.20%, not even 2% of the .jp registrations. i wish i own 2% of all the .jp domains market.

But anyway im sure some members in here may have a percentage similar or just a bit smaller, i suppose a couple of members here have 0.1%, while i guess others that keep it in secret have more than me. Although most of you go by IDN .com instead of .jp but dont forget that the more you register in .jp, the cheaper to register. bulk registrations of 100 or 200 .jp sometimes mean only $19 or a bit less per .jp

[Olney]

I'm going to chill out on the registrations for a while
I hear you guys talking about the easy keywords like
cheap + hotel
New York + Hotel
I thought I owned all of those the dot coms & jp...
I own over 40 major cities & countries in dot com & jp for hotels
plus very cheap tickets, hotel, vacation....

i'll probably post my portfolio soon. I'm tuckered out...

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by donwebcorleone

Dave, or everyday i understand less english or u talked in such kind of methaphorical sense that i couldnt catch it at all.

Bwhhisc, the fact the .jp registration arent into millions makes me reach that level, as more registrations happen in .jp my percentage will go down. although it is only 0.20%, not even 2% of the .jp registrations. i wish i own 2% of all the .jp domains market.

But anyway im sure some members in here may have a percentage similar or just a bit smaller, i suppose a couple of members here have 0.1%, while i guess others that keep it in secret have more than me. Although most of you go by IDN .com instead of .jp but dont forget that the more you register in .jp, the cheaper to register. bulk registrations of 100 or 200 .jp sometimes mean only $19 or a bit less per .jp

I was just trying to say Simple Concepts are the best. You don't get type in on long or obscure words.

[bwhhisc]

[quote=sarcle]E I've been avoiding it for so long that now that I am ready I have to go in an sort, catagorize, get scores ect. ect. For those that are just starting out, don't put that off make sure you do all of that in the beginning or you will be dealing with the headache I am. /QUOTE]

Any ideas to speed up organizing? Maybe just use a seperate excel spreadsheet? Can domainsite.com sort by language? Ideas appreciated.

[Edwin]

Excel is your friend when it comes to sorting domains.

I suggest columns for domain, punycode, language, meaning and topic. So for example a domain might be:-
xn--pck9af9cyi2c.com, パッチワーク.com, Japanese, patchwork, hobbies

Unless you really have a massive number of names, you can probably get away with a dozen or so topics e.g. business and finance, hobbies, travel, places and people, computers and the internet, etc.

By doing it this way, you're left with maximum flexibility when it comes to deciding how to sort your portfolio.

Of course, you can add analytics columns as well e.g. "Overture score", "Max Overture bid" and so on if you like.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Edwin

Excel is your friend when it comes to sorting domains.

I suggest columns for domain, punycode, language, meaning and topic. So for example a domain might be:-
xn--pck9af9cyi2c.com, パッチワーク.com, Japanese, patchwork, hobbies

Unless you really have a massive number of names, you can probably get away with a dozen or so topics e.g. business and finance, hobbies, travel, places and people, computers and the internet, etc.

By doing it this way, you're left with maximum flexibility when it comes to deciding how to sort your portfolio.

Of course, you can add analytics columns as well e.g. "Overture score", "Max Overture bid" and so on if you like.

That almost exactly how I am doing it. Renewal dates are often useful to know. I personally leave the extensions off the Unicode, so that I can cut and paste the terms into various analytical tools without being concerned about the extensions.

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

I have been financing new registrations through sales, but this not really a longer-term strategy, as the rule of diminishing returns undoubtedly applies. In the longer-term I think it is just a question of monitoring the bank account once in a while to ensure that the Parking Sites are not ripping me off too drastically. Let face it having too many domains is just going to interfere with your leisure time!



In India the surface has barely been scratched, but there appears to be a lot of speculator traffic now!



Don't ask me gor Chr*st S*ke, I am already in trouble for expressing opinions on subjects I know nothing about! And please bear in mind that I have never visited the Far East or have any close contacts there that I can use for advice on.

My view, however, is that one word keywords are enourmously superior to two as domain names. As search terms two will often give a more useful set of search results which is why they get high Overture scores, but as domains get longer the Overture correlation weakens. Three words might work for a Yahoo search, but it won't generally work as a domain.

If you have to go for two words then stay as Generic as possible. USHotels.com has to be better than NYCHotels.com. Words like quick, free, cheap, are enourmously generic and limit the damage done by going to two words, but that damage is still very signficant.

The domains I sent you don't suck... and I also have fax.com in russian... come on

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Jeff

The domains I sent you don't suck... and I also have fax.com in russian... come on

Are you addressing me? If so could you explain yourself?

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

Are you addressing me? If so could you explain yourself?

no the guy that owns every single .jp domain

i misquoted u by accident. He wanted to know what domains I own so he could market them offline to ppl interested in buying... I should have never sent him my list as he never got back to me.

[gammascalper]

Originally Posted by Edwin

Yes, next step is to build out my portfolio site.

Would you display all your IDN publicly in a portfolio site or would you display a sample of it with the expectation that folks interested in seeing more will contact you?

Do you park them in the meantime?

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by gammascalper

Would you display all your IDN publicly in a portfolio site or would you display a sample of it with the expectation that folks interested in seeing more will contact you?

Do you park them in the meantime?

When it's finished, I will display them publicly, though maybe in the form of a downloadable list (like I do on http://www.memorabledomains.co.uk/ for my .co.uk names) rather than in tabular form.

I can still park them - I can get the Namedrive page to reference my portfolio site so that people are one click away from it when they land.

[Drewbert]

I see I have some catching up to do, Edwin (evil laugh). :^)