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Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

I looked at my snap history and it seems that [gold] was sold recently for $4,400, I recall that [silver] dropped on the same day, has anyone got the intel on that one ?

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Corresponds to the generally assumed 1/10 value ratio of net/com.

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Yes, but they were both .coms!
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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Yes, but they were both .coms!

Surprising, perhaps the top bidder for gold didn't know about silver? Any clues who the "lucky winner" might be, whois hasn't been updated?
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Bidder for gold was in both auctions.

The disparity in price is not surprising.

Gold is more valuable than silver, no?
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

with silver prices at a little over 2% of the price of gold, silver.com *should* have fetched about $89, so this is some damn shiny silver
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Some societies like gold, other prefer silver or platinum. Matter of style.
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Interesting way to look at it though, they might be considered equal in SE/type-in potential but they represent different price classes so you might want to use that to determine the relative pricing. However, to make this assumption workable you assume that the same amount of visitors amounts to more or less the same amount of sold products (in units of mass perhaps) but this would consequently lead to the more general assumption that similar products of different price classes are sold in the same
quantities given the some amount of potential buyers. Needless to say that this is incorrect, gold will attract more "luxury tourists" and it would be sold in relatively lower quantities so it remains exclusive for those who buy it.
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Luxury retailers earn more markup from silver than other metals, despite the lower raw cost of the product, the profit is greater.
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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Luxury retailers earn more markup from silver than other metals, despite the lower raw cost of the product, the profit is greater.

We're starting to value domains by how much the actual item is worth instead of whether there are advertisers in the first place.

A search for gold (金) and silver (银) in chinese on baidu yields no advertisements!
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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A search for gold (金) and silver (银) in chinese on baidu yields no advertisements!
As far as IDNs go, Baidu is in the stone age, when it should approaching bronze!
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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As far as IDNs go, Baidu is in the stone age, when it should approaching bronze!
No ads on Google.cn either?

Gold - 金: http://www.google.cn/search?complete...E9%87%91&meta=
0 ads.http://www.google.cn/search?complete...E5%8F%B8&meta=

Sports lottery - 体育彩票 (snapped for $2,756): http://www.google.cn/search?complete...E7%A5%A8&meta=
0 Ads.

Silver - 银: http://www.google.cn/search?complete...r%3Dlang_zh-CN
2 Ads.

Company - 公司 (snapped for $10,750):
http://www.google.cn/search?complete...E5%8F%B8&meta=
2 Ads.

Energy (snapped for $3999) - 能源: http://www.google.cn/search?complete...r%3Dlang_zh-CN
5 Ads.

Loan - 贷款: http://www.google.cn/search?complete...r%3Dlang_zh-CN
6 Ads

Financing - 融资: http://www.google.cn/search?complete...r%3Dlang_zh-CN
8 Ads.

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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We're starting to value domains by how much the actual item is worth instead of whether there are advertisers in the first place.

A search for gold (金) and silver (银) in chinese on baidu yields no advertisements!
Yes because this also shows what you plan to do with the domains , if you plan on selling Silver it would matter. Everbody is not just going to go the ppc route.




Dont forget things are Geo Targeted often.

And i also agree the price of commodities hold value no matter the advertisers currently bidding on the term. Because common sense tells me tons of companies selling silver , gold , ect would love to own the domain.

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

There are now 2 markets for domains. Collectable and marketable generics. A good example of collectable are LLL.com/.net and NNN.com/.net. Collectables have done far better than the other recently, if you consider the appreciation of LLLs and NNNs the past year or so.

So yes, domain valuation may not necessarily depend on PPC or even end user interest.
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Didn't we call that "brandability" ?
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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There are now 2 markets for domains. Collectable and marketable generics. A good example of collectable are LLL.com/.net and NNN.com/.net. Collectables have done far better than the other recently, if you consider the appreciation of LLLs and NNNs the past year or so.

So yes, domain valuation may not necessarily depend on PPC or even end user interest.

Right. Does anyone have a clue how much the "Nottinghamshire Sports Network" (holder of the nsn.com domain until last fall) sold it to the new Nokia-Siemens Networks company for?

I suspect the deal could have went into the millions.

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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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Right. Does anyone have a clue how much the "Nottinghamshire Sports Network" (holder of the nsn.com domain until last fall) sold it to the new Nokia-Siemens Networks company for?

I suspect the deal could have went into the millons.

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You got a point, domain valuation is somehow affected by similar name sales. If nsn.com is sold for $x,xxx,xxx, then nxw.com must be worth at least mid $x,xxx on the reseller market. This is a point i failed to understand when i bought ascii names a year ago.
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

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As far as IDNs go, Baidu is in the stone age, when it should approaching bronze!
Looking to see how many Ads are associated with a term is a solid approach and has little or nothing to do with how a particular search engine ranks IDN.

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Didn't we call that "brandability" ?
Yes, the term collectables should be reserved for Symbol domains and other such articles favoured by the eccentrics.

Gold and Silver and not brandables, they are generics. The lack of Ads could be down to linguistic nuances or local market factors.

If you have laws like the US had where it was illegal to own Gold, then there is not much profit in marketing it.

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Right. Does anyone have a clue how much the "Nottinghamshire Sports Network" (holder of the nsn.com domain until last fall) sold it to the new Nokia-Siemens Networks company for?

I suspect the deal could have went into the millions.

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Never fails to amuse me how large corporates launch branding without ensuring they have secured their critical domains first!

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You got a point, domain valuation is somehow affected by similar name sales. If nsn.com is sold for $x,xxx,xxx, then nxw.com must be worth at least mid $x,xxx on the reseller market. This is a point i failed to understand when i bought ascii names a year ago.
If you knew what you were talking about, then you would know that all three letter dot com combos are worth "at least mid $x,xxx"!!!
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Re: Turkish [gold] sold, what about [silver] ?

Gold is the ultimate investment that any investor can have in his portfolio............it never looses its shine......
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