Frank Schilling posts on .CN IDN

[ChinaStar]

Frank posts on .CN IDN and why he prefers it to .com in China.

He has some valid points although the commentary on the cost is off.

http://frankschilling.typepad.com/

[Olney]

Not surprised to read that...
Looks like you .cn holders might be getting a bit more buzz in the domaining communities.

[ChinaStar]

Originally Posted by Olney

Not surprised to read that...
Looks like you .cn holders might be getting a bit more buzz in the domaining communities.

Although he posted about it, I doubt he has bought any because he quotes the cost for ASCII.CN.

In the end it doesn't matter what we think or how we speculate. It's all about the consumers and what they like.

[markits]

Originally Posted by This Guy

I like the CCtld .CN much better than .com for the Chinese IDN because the cost is lower (.14 cents vs 6.42 per year). More people will likely adopt the .CN extension in China and build sites on it "because" it is cheaper and easier to do so. ...
I still think .com will do fine, but not as fine as they could if the .com IDN was ready and the price was lower.

I don't know who this guy is but what he is talking about is complete nonsense. The idn.cn domain is many times more expensive than the idn.com domain. If he has the right facts, he will conclude that the idn.com if more preferable than the .cn in China.

[ChinaStar]

Originally Posted by markits

I don't know who this guy is but what he is talking about is complete nonsense. The idn.cn domain is many times more expensive than the idn.com domain. If he has the right facts, he will conclude that the idn.com if more preferable than the .cn in China.

He's one of the most if not most successful domainers to date, very well respected and liked within the domain industry.

I reserve my comments on .com versus .cn because I think i've made myself pretty clear.

p.s.
He admitted that he made a mistake on the pricing in the comments.

[Olney]

My point of view I agree with the part about Chinese promoting dot cn.... It might not be about price...

[Giant]

Frank is a great guy, he's always right on domains. But to comment correctly on ccTLD domains you need to know that particular country really well, different ccTLD domains have very different circumstances.

In China, Dot Com is king. There's a misunderstanding among many people that the Chinese government doesn't like Dot Com domains, it's very wrong. If you remember the great leader of China Deng Xiaoping once said "It doesn't matter whether it's a white cat or black cat, it's a good cat if it catches mice". Dot Com domains catch "customers" much better than Dot CN, they help bring in hundreds of billions worth of business each year. That's why more than 90% of large Chinese business use Dot Com domains.

Chinese people are free to choose using Dot Com or Dot CN domains, that's their fundamental right guaranteed by China's Constitution.

[ChinaStar]

Originally Posted by Giant

Frank is a great guy, he's always right on domains. But to comment on ccTLD domains you need to know that particular country really well, different ccTLD domains have very different circumstances.

In China, Dot Com is king. There's a misunderstanding among many people that the Chinese government doesn't like Dot Com domains, it's very wrong. If you remember the great leader of China Deng Xiaoping once said "It doesn't matter whether it's a white cat or black cat, it's a good cat if it catches mice". Dot Com domains catch "customers" much better than Dot CN, they help bring in hundreds of billions worth of business each year. That's why more than 90% of large Chinese business use Dot Com domains.

Chinese people are free to choose using Dot Com or Dot CN domains, that's their fundamental right granted by China's Constitution.

CN Surpasses COM In China For First Time
March 8, 2004
A report released by ICANN shows that in China, the number of registrations of CN domain names has overwhelmingly exceeded that of COM domain names.


CN has now become the first choice for most Chinese when they register domain names for their enterprises. The ICANN report says that the total number of registrations of CN domain names in 2003 reached 340,000, an increase of 89.4% over the previous year. The increase of COM registrations was less than one tenth of that figure.

http://www.chinatechnews.com/2004/03...or-first-time/

This was in 2004. ICANN report.

There are multiple links for the same report on the web backlogged to 2004.

[Rubber Duck]

It matters not whether he has got it right or wrong. What is important is that he is asking the questions.

I wonder how many of the these me too blogging starlets will emulate him in this respect?

[Giant]

Originally Posted by ChinaStar

CN Surpasses COM In China For First Time
March 8, 2004
A report released by ICANN shows that in China, the number of registrations of CN domain names has overwhelmingly exceeded that of COM domain names.


CN has now become the first choice for most Chinese when they register domain names for their enterprises. The ICANN report says that the total number of registrations of CN domain names in 2003 reached 340,000, an increase of 89.4% over the previous year. The increase of COM registrations was less than one tenth of that figure.

http://www.chinatechnews.com/2004/03...or-first-time/

This was in 2004. ICANN report.

There are multiple links for the same report on the web backlogged to 2004.

one Yuan per domain is to cause Dot CN domains all stocked by domain dealers especially registrars. I see it as a disaster for Dot CN domains.

You came late to domaining, and picked up some leftover Dot CN domains in the last few months. You better consult people with experience and know the value of your domains before you spend so much effort to praise Dot CN

Dot CN IDN domains that are worth regging were all gone within the first 6 months of 2006. I know some members here like kenne, touchring ... own some very good IDN.cn domains, I am one of them.

[domainguru]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

It matters not whether he has got it right or wrong. What is important is that he is asking the questions.

I wonder how many of the these me too blogging starlets will emulate him in this respect?

Absolutely right. Frank's blog will do an amazing amount to put IDNs "on the map" in the wider domaining community. This kind of publicity is priceless. Just hope everyone treats him with the respect he deserves.

[mulligan]

Thats as may be but as early as 2004 .cn has outstriped .com in China
In those intervening 3 years I doubt this 'King' has made a comeback

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Originally Posted by Giant

one Yuan per domain is to cause Dot CN domains all stocked by domain dealers especially registrars. I see it as a disaster for Dot CN domains.

You came late to domaining, and picked up some leftover Dot CN domains in the last few months. You better consult people with experience and know the value of your domains before you spend so much effort to praise Dot CN

Dot CN IDN domains that are worth regging were all gone within the first 6 months of 2006. I know some members here like kenne, touchring ... own some very good IDN.cn domains, I am one of them.

[Alphamale]

Originally Posted by domainguru

This kind of publicity is priceless. Just hope everyone treats him with the respect he deserves.

he does seem like a decent guy. he is undoubtedly extremely successful, and as we just saw he even puts his hands up when wrong about something - he also seems to have avoided parking his head in his arse which some of his colleagues clearly suffer from.

Originally Posted by Giant

You better consult people with experience and know the value of your domains before you spend so much effort to praise Dot CN

i love observing the politics of this board.. big .com holders pushing the .coms; the .cn boys propoganding that, and then theres the .jp brigade... oh and the .ws posse

makes for a great spectator sport

[ChinaStar]

Originally Posted by Giant

one Yuan per domain is to cause Dot CN domains all stocked by domain dealers especially registrars. I see it as a disaster for Dot CN domains.

You came late to domaining, and picked up some leftover Dot CN domains in the last few months. You better consult people with experience and know the value of your domains before you spend so much effort to praise Dot CN

Dot CN IDN domains that are worth regging were all gone within the first 6 months of 2006. I know some members here like kenne, touchring ... own some very good IDN.cn domains, I am one of them.

I'm glad you own some, I hope they are not like your domains in your signature because most of them are secondary terms. Mortgage? Yeah right. I passed up the chance to pick the .CN when it was still available.

Look Giant, in all our arguments, you have never produced a shred of information by yourself to substantiate any of your points. No data, no articles, just "Giant says".

Instead of evidence, you produce "valuable" insights from your own "wide experience". Follow your own advice and make a compelling arguement for once. I'll give you a domain that's better than your "mortgage" if you do.

You have proven yourself to be narrow and small minded, arrogant and petty. For a supposed "pioneer" and premium domain holder, you are ironic at best.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

i love observing the politics of this board.. big .com holders pushing the .coms; the .cn boys propoganding that, and then theres the .jp brigade... oh and the .ws posse

makes for a great spectator sport

Yes, but the targetted audience is just about a handful...

[Alphamale]

[Giant]

Originally Posted by mulligan

Thats as may be but as early as 2004 .cn has outstriped .com in China
In those intervening 3 years I doubt this 'King' has made a comeback

.

Dot Com is absolutely "king" in China. Any companies that can afford to use Dot Com they definitely will, but many companies that are not rich enough to own one have to settle with Dot CN and no doubt they are in big number too.

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

i love observing the politics of this board.. big .com holders pushing the .coms; the .cn boys propoganding that, and then theres the .jp brigade... oh and the .ws posse

makes for a great spectator sport

I don't care who 'wins' as I have a little bit of each ....
But I love my .ws the most ...

Originally Posted by Giant

Dot Com is absolutely "king" in China. Any companies that can afford to use Dot Com they definitely will, but many companies that are not rich enough to own one have to settle with Dot CN and no doubt they are in big number too.

Why are google pursuing gmail.cn if .com is so big and in your opinion so much more valuable than .cn? Why bother or be concerned with such a worthless extension?

And a company that cant afford the $6.99 for a .com is not much of a company or is business really that bad?

[touchring]

Originally Posted by mulligan

Why are google pursuing gmail.cn if .com is so big and in your opinion so much more valuable than .cn? Why bother or be concerned with such a worthless extension?

http://www.google.com/trends?q=.cn%2...eo=CN&date=all

dot com is king, but dot cn is no loser. Trends show .cn awareness appearing since 2006!