Is anyone interested in $15 backorders for IDNs? - IDN Forums

ThisDot · #1 04-14-2007, 03:25 PM

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I'm currently operating a $15 backorder service. I don't offer IDNs at this point, but would like to gauge the interest level. Please let me know if you would be interested in this. Also let me know if you would like to backorder any non IDNs for $15 as this service is currently available.

Thanks,
David

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Thanks,
David

dnnames · #2 04-19-2007, 07:25 AM

Greatly interested, however how does it operate?

jacksonm · #3 04-19-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dnnames

Greatly interested, however how does it operate?

As in $15 *if* you get the name for me, or $15 just for trying?

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ThisDot · #4 04-19-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonm

As in $15 *if* you get the name for me, or $15 just for trying?

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The service is not yet operational for IDN names. It is ready to go for non-IDNs. It is $15 only if successful. If enough people express an interest I will get it setup for IDNs. If you would be interested, please post here. Also it is only available for .com .net .org .biz .info and .us domains.

Thanks,
David

Alphamale · #5 04-19-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisDot

The service is not yet operational for IDN names. It is ready to go for non-IDNs. It is $15 only if successful. If enough people express an interest I will get it setup for IDNs. If you would be interested, please post here. Also it is only available for .com .net .org .biz .info and .us domains.

Thanks,
David

and you have the firepower to beat SnapNames to the catch?

Rubber Duck · #6 04-19-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphamale

and you have the firepower to beat SnapNames to the catch?

He would need the firepower to get names that Snaps have already secured before they "drop"! Snaps has the main IDN outlets in its pockets. I am not even sure they do competitive dropping anymore. I think they just mothballed the equipment when they signed up the registrars.

ThisDot · #7 04-19-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphamale

and you have the firepower to beat SnapNames to the catch?

I do occasionally catch names that snapnames is going after. I can also catch many names that you may not want to pay $60 each for, but would like to have for $15. Let me know if you would have any interest in my expanding into IDNs.

Thanks,
David

kleszcz · #8 04-19-2007, 01:37 PM

Hi ThisDot. I've recently bought several good names from him and definitely worth trying.

Alphamale · #9 04-19-2007, 01:41 PM

excuse my cynicism, but

a) if it's not worth $60, it's not worth anything

b) if it is worth something and you catch it, why would you sell it at $15

touchring · #10 04-19-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisDot

I do occasionally catch names that snapnames is going after. I can also catch many names that you may not want to pay $60 each for, but would like to have for $15. Let me know if you would have any interest in my expanding into IDNs.

Thanks,
David

Question: What happens if 2 person ordered the name from you?

Everyday, there are so few idns worth catching in the first place, probably a handful a day, at $15, there will probably be a dozen guys going after each name, how are you going to handle this?

This is not like ASCII where there are tens of thousands of names and people catch junk.

Rubber Duck · #11 04-19-2007, 01:55 PM

It could be the old problem of not charging enough so people don't value you properly, but my only experience of a very cheap catching service was Godaddy.

What did they catch? Not a bloody cold!

ThisDot · #12 04-19-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by touchring

Question: What happens if 2 person ordered the name from you?

Everyday, there are so few idns worth catching in the first place, probably a handful a day, at $15, there will probably be a dozen guys going after each name, how are you going to handle this?

This is not like ASCII where there are tens of thousands of names and people catch junk.

It is handled on a first come, first served basis. If someone has already ordered a name I would respond to the second person and let them know that the name is already taken. This happens with ASCII domains as well.

ThisDot · #13 04-19-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphamale

excuse my cynicism, but

a) if it's not worth $60, it's not worth anything

b) if it is worth something and you catch it, why would you sell it at $15

a) I understand that everyone has a different prospective on what is valuable and what is not. If you don't like dealing with low profit domains, that is fine, but if you can buy domains for $15 and sell them for $30 you are doubling your money which is worth alot to many people.

b) The reason I am willing to sell domains for $15 is because you are the one doing the research to find the valuable names and I am focusing on catching them. I make a little bit of profit of each name without having to spend time researching them.

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Originally Posted by Alphamale

Maybe you should look at areas where there is a gap in the market, and not already dominated by major monolopolies. ie. the .JP market - from what I understand it is wide open and is the playground of a handful of manual catchers.

Thanks for the tip. I am planning on expanding into country code domains, but am spending alot of time catching domains in the major extensions at the moment. IDNs in the main ext. will be an easier transition first due to pricing, etc. I will be sure to let everyone know if and when I do begin offering services in other extensions. What extensions would everyone be interested in? The obvious first choices would be .co.uk .de and .jp, any others?

grubstaker · #14 04-19-2007, 02:27 PM

When do you suspect this service to start?

ThisDot · #15 04-19-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by grubstaker

When do you suspect this service to start?

It is currently available for ASCII domains. If the interest is strong, it could be operational for IDNs by the begining of next month. Anyone that is interested, be sure and post here so I can gauge the level of interest.

Alphamale · #16 04-19-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisDot

What extensions would everyone be interested in? The obvious first choices would be .co.uk .de and .jp, any others?

far be it from me to lecture you, but it sounds like you are happy dealing in scraps that are only available because no one else wanted them.

You would be far better moving into a market with little competition, where there is demand for such a service.

I can tell you that .co.uk is monopolised by scripters - you will need some hefty firepower to compete there.

I don't know the .de market

Muhammad Mustafa · #17 04-19-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphamale

b) if it is worth something and you catch it, why would you sell it at $15

as am really interseted in this service, but a q. in my mind want to have answer forand I found it posted by alpha. I have a couple of question may be very important to be answered here:
1- as I didn't see a website for the service posted here, I suppose you will provide this service through mails or so .. what if I did a search to found a name and asked you to snap it and you told me its being backordered by some one else, while nobody did .. then I made the search you snapped the name and sell it as you like and nothing to prove in this case.
2- lets suppose a great name like (realestate.com) for example will drop and I backordered it from you and name snaped by you .. why you have to give it for me for 15$ while you can sell it for more $$$??
just a little of thing to think in before trying such a service, I may try your service soon with ascii names to see

*alpha, congrats on new nice avatar

Rubber Duck · #18 04-19-2007, 03:09 PM

So you don't believe in Santa Claus, but you do did believe in the Tooth Fairy, or did I get that the wrong way around?

Giant · #19 04-19-2007, 03:35 PM

I will place 100 orders each day at $15 per name if you are willing to pay me $1 for each name you fail to catch. This way, I would not waste my time for nothing and the $1 compensation will force you to improve your catch power. Deal?

Rubber Duck · #20 04-19-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant

I will place 100 orders each day at $15 per name if you are willing to pay me $1 for each name you fail to catch. This way, I would not waste my time for nothing and the $1 compensation will force you to improve your catch power. Deal?

Now you really do believe in the Tooth Fairy!