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Old 25th October 2005, 09:49 AM
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Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

I was just checking stats on PR for sites.

I can't find any IDNs with Google Page Rank.

I even checked Japan't registrar's website

http://xn--wgv71a119e.jp/ 日本語.jp

It doesn't show any PR at all & it has plenty of backlinks to it.

I wonder if this will change?

If anyone has seen an IDN with PageRank please post it.

We already know that IDNs can at least show up natively in Google results...
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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

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I was just checking stats on PR for sites.

I can't find any IDNs with Google Page Rank.

I even checked Japan't registrar's website

http://xn--wgv71a119e.jp/ 日本語.jp

It doesn't show any PR at all & it has plenty of backlinks to it.

I wonder if this will change?

If anyone has seen an IDN with PageRank please post it.

We already know that IDNs can at least show up natively in Google results...
Well, I would guess that PR for IDN is one of those things still in development.

Google seem pretty committed to being a player in the IDN Market, so I don't think this should be a problem longer-term.

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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

Yeah it's got an alexa ranking of 259,700.

Alexa Link

They get some great traffic, heres the graph      Of course the parent site jprs.jp does much better.
                                                                                        

I would guess also that this has to do with the programming/translation problems.


It doesn't have a Ranking number at Ranking.com.  I haven't seen one at ranking.com  With that great of an alexa rank it should.

I wrote them an e-mail at http://xn--wgv71a119e.jp.  I will post the reply once or if I recieve it.
Their email is info@jprs.jp.  Maybe you can write them one also olney.  Just in case they can't speak english and just toss this e-mail.

Basically I wrote. 

I am interested in purchasing some Idn domains.  I would love to purchase a few from your site.  I have a question maybe you can answer.  I noticed that your site has a very good alexa ranking with great traffic yet no google page rank.  I am concered about this.  Can you give me an explaination on this.  Any thing will do, opinion or fact.  I am just trying to gage my future interest in these domains.  We have wrote about you at "Idnforums.com"
We are IDN domain investors looking for answers to our questions.  I'm sure if you come and reply you will obtain a lot of business as it would help us and inform us at the same time.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

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I was just checking stats on PR for sites.

I can't find any IDNs with Google Page Rank.

I even checked Japan't registrar's website

http://xn--wgv71a119e.jp/ 日本語.jp

It doesn't show any PR at all & it has plenty of backlinks to it.

I wonder if this will change?

If anyone has seen an IDN with PageRank please post it.

We already know that IDNs can at least show up natively in Google results...
Interestingly jprs.co.uk only ranks 339,369 at Alexa and dropped 68,258 over the last 3 months and was actually down to 528,455!

Does this mean that the Japanese are abandoning this version of the site, or am I missing something here!

It is also about time Alexa got their act together and went IDN enabled!

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Sorry, got this wrong. Their main site is jprs.jp which is 18,589!




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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

After seeing this information I would come to this conclusion also. That there is definetly something going on. Either they are moving their traffic away from jprs.jp to the idn. I did notice that there are two links on jprs.jp one is two their child site, and another is to xn--gmqs0ew0c0z5h.jp (has alexa) which list's all the active .jp inds....interesting...I checked it out and there are many that are available in the .com.....hmmm....give you an idea.
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Never mind...they are people's names....it's a directory.
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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

This is a very strange company. The other sites they operate at is:

jps.co.jp Alexa ranking 357,979. Page rank 2
jpshop.jp Alexa ranking 305,639 Page rank 6
jpinfo.jp Alexa ranking 255,688 Page rank 6
jpdirect.jp Alexa ranking 197,567 Page rank 6
Jpsearch.jp Alexa ranking 594,878 Page rank 4
jppartners.jp Alexa ranking 198,337 Page rank 6
domaincafe.jp Alexa ranking 1,768,641 Page rank 5
yondene.jp Alexa ranking 2,289,501 Page rank 5
mitsuketa.jp Alexa ranking 1,640,000 Page rank 5
mijikai.jp Alexa ranking 1,061,472 age rank 5

Keep in mind that these are the only ones that I can connect them to either through Alexa or Page rank. The Idn's I cannot. I would not have dug this deep had I not recieved the e-mail I did. There is something strange going on with this company though. I will post more on the subject when I get more proof. Here is there response to the e-mail I sent.
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Dear

Thank you for your inquiry and your interest in IDN Domain name.

We're afraid but not sure about search result or contents of each
website. For detail of contents, please contact webmaster or
administrator of that webpage.

Very Sincerely yours.

Japan Registry Services Co., Ltd.(JPRS)
.JP Domain Name Customer Support
e-mail : info@jprs.jp
URL http://jprs.jp/en/
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Brilliant customer service. I guess they didn't realize that this is their site, and that I have no idea who their webmasters are. It would have been as simple as forwarding my e-mail to the appropriate channel. But I guess with this many websites and possible lot's more they get a little confused what goes where. Anyways, I re-wrote them, we will see what response I get a second time.
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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

The response is typical.

In other words

We in the office have absolutely no friggin clue w3hat the hell you are talkin about...
Please contact any else except me & especially not in English.
Have a nice day Mr. Foreign Person San

I got a right to make fun I live here in Tokyo... ;D
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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

Yeah. I was going to say the same thing. But thought maybe I shouldn't have. I will dig up some more stuff and get it out soon.
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Re: Google Might not pass PR to IDNs

Because this is pretty important I wrote post on seochat.com & dnforums.com about this...

Unfortunately the SEO experts kept thinking I was talking about .jp's don't produce PageRank...
Hopefully it can be useful info for consultants..
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What are the links?

I also contacted google and verisign as well. We will see what their responses are. I will post as soon as I recieve any info.

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