new big IDN sale, Moscow.com in Russian 16.000$

[bramiozo]

Nice one.

Turkey.com in Turkish went for $6,600 .

[touchring]

Originally Posted by bramiozo

Nice one.

Turkey.com in Turkish went for $6,600 .

Broaddaylight robbery!

[alpha]

Tell you what though folks..

It is good to see a big IDN .com sell not on this forum. I mean where the buyer and seller are not from here.. i was beginning to get the feeling we had created our own little self contained market where the only buyers and sellers are here - and we just keep selling to one another.

Although the price is *low* and it has no doubt temporarily devalued others in the process - a sale outside of here for this sum and being a .com is a vote of confidence in IDN from non-moonies.

This is good news IMO

[Olney]

The number of IDNs on Afternic double by the weekend?

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

Tell you what though folks..

It is good to see a big IDN .com sell not on this forum. I mean where the buyer and seller are not from here.. i was beginning to get the feeling we had created our own little self contained market where the only buyers and sellers are here - and we just keep selling to one another.

Although the price is *low* and it has no doubt temporarily devalued others in the process - a sale outside of here for this sum and being a .com is a vote of confidence in IDN from non-moonies.

This is good news IMO

There is currently a "risk" associated with idns if you notice just a while ago, a swedish ascii.se and idn.se were reported at the same time on DNjournal, and i find it ridiculous that the ascii cost many times the idn - when the ascii is a typo, and not the other way round.

So, if you are smart, and you got an extra house in US or even the UK that you don't need, you sell your house, and go around offering a fraction of price of ascii equivalent for all the best idns around.

4-5 years later, the money you invest can buy at least 8 houses - Why?

Inflation and high interest rates would have slashed the value of houses in the Western world by half (Europe will come later than US, but it will still happen - interest rates goes up, house price comes down, it might not happen in a straightline, but it will happen eventually), and the IDNs you invested have at least quadripled.

Is this an exaggeration? Erm no?


Meanwhile, here's an interesting roller coastal ride video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUldGc06S3U - take note of the last part of the video.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by mulligan

I believe the seller is Korean

The original owner was indeed Korean.

I think he must have a good Korean Portfolio and probably justs wants a bit of cash to develop.

Originally Posted by Wot

Am I the only one who thinks that is WAY too cheap , particularly after Turkey at $10K?

Yes, by a factor of ten at least!

Originally Posted by Olney

The number of IDNs on Afternic double by the weekend?

I wonder if Sedo have figured out yet how they lost out on this sale!

[Giant]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

It is good to see a big IDN .com sell not on this forum. I mean where the buyer and seller are not from here.. i was beginning to get the feeling we had created our own little self contained market where the only buyers and sellers are here - and we just keep selling to one another.

I don't think IDN sales have only happened on this forum. I have sold to non-members and end users more than I sold on this forum since 2005.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Giant

I don't think IDN sales have only happened on this forum. I have sold to non-members and end users more than I sold on this forum since 2005.

Absolutely right, Western forums such as IDNFs will rapidly become a side show in terms of the overall market, even if they do assists outsiders to understand what is happening.

It is a terrible shame that more has not been achieved in building forums which reach out to local markets. There is no doubt that those who rely entirely on Western oriented forums are going to seem increasingly isolated from the real action, but whilst people consider the crowd at TRAFFICS to be the be and end of all the domaining world, then this problem will persists.

What is actually happening, is that TRAFFICS is becoming increasingly focused on a single economy, which although still by far the largest in conventional measurements is approaching a period of massive relative decline. This reality is being masked by the ineffective ways in which Western Economists actually evaluate the problem.

In my view the Yuan is undervalued by as much as a factor of anything between 2 and 5 times its current rating. It is also likely that in many way the US dollar is rated at least double what it is really worth in terms of currencies such as the Euro, Yen and Rouble. These discrepancies will unravel over the next couple of years. American military might will be undermined by the fact that much of their equipment will be mothballed because is too expensive to maintain, and it will be left to rust in much the same way as the pride of the Soviet Fleet.

In "The Day after Tomorrow", the US evacuated half its population to Mexico. The reality is that they could not evacuate New Orleans or clear up properly after the hurricane. The US's own perception of itself has been created by Hollywood and is consequently largely a myth. It is I am afraid time to wake up and smell the coffee.

[alpha]

Originally Posted by Giant

I don't think IDN sales have only happened on this forum. I have sold to non-members and end users more than I sold on this forum since 2005.

I meant the very public sales reported on DNJ.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

I meant the very public sales reported on DNJ.

I think neither buyer or seller would have made any effort to publicise this sale. I think it has only been reported because Afternic have taken the trouble to do so.

Although Afternic is not really a major force in the aftermarket it is still the only established venue that seems to be competant to sell domains of this nature.

Things should start moving forward when Sedo actually move away from the position of promoting IDN as spoofing Typos and Moniker realises that it not ecumbent on their sellers to find their own buyers.

[Muhammad Mustafa]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Although Afternic is not really a major force in the aftermarket it is still the only established venue that seems to be competant to sell domains of this nature.

Things should start moving forward when Sedo actually move away from the position of promoting IDN as spoofing Typos and Moniker realises that it not ecumbent on their sellers to find their own buyers.

if am not wrong and understood this point well, I think Sedo too accept IDNs for sale.
NOT supporting all languages yet (arabic for example) but supporting some.
hope I get your mean, and sure if Sedo supports all IDNs it will be greater and Greater for IDNers


* although some people saw the price too low but its some kind pretty to the trade itself .. when we saw such IDNs breaks 10k is better than see 95% of sales lower than 1k.
this means the market goes over and over every day for IDNs, just an opinion

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Muhammad Mustafa

if am not wrong and understood this point well, I think Sedo too accept IDNs for sale.
NOT supporting all languages yet (arabic for example) but supporting some.
hope I get your mean, and sure if Sedo supports all IDNs it will be greater and Greater for IDNers


* although some people saw the price too low but its some kind pretty to the trade itself .. when we saw such IDNs breaks 10k is better than see 95% of sales lower than 1k.
this means the market goes over and over every day for IDNs, just an opinion

Yes, SEDO does support IDN as long as they are predominantly in ASCII characters.

SEDO have totally missed the main point of IDN, and the small concession they have made to IDN has done little more than make a mockery of the whole project.

The final laugh, however, will very much be ours and it will be be very much at their expense. The launch of DNLocal Elite Auction will only serve to add injury to insult.

[ctc]

Originally Posted by Alphamale

Tell you what though folks..

It is good to see a big IDN .com sell not on this forum. I mean where the buyer and seller are not from here.. i was beginning to get the feeling we had created our own little self contained market where the only buyers and sellers are here - and we just keep selling to one another.

Although the price is *low* and it has no doubt temporarily devalued others in the process - a sale outside of here for this sum and being a .com is a vote of confidence in IDN from non-moonies.

This is good news IMO

My thoughts exactly

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

SEDO have totally missed the main point of IDN, and the small concession they have made to IDN has done little more than make a mockery of the whole project.

Yes..they are completly inthe dark when it comes to IDNs... all they are doing is helping the phishes get their 2cents

[filmlion]

I am also glad for this news since all IDNs i have are Russian. Since I made a couple of good sales recently and covered all my expenses for the next year or two for my portfolio, I am relaxed now and waiting for the IDN market to improve. Meanwhile I am planning to develop one of my Russian IDNs and promote it in the Russian Internet space but I haven't chosen the project yet. Again, great news.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by filmlion

I am also glad for this news since all IDNs i have are Russian. Since I made a couple of good sales recently and covered all my expenses for the next year or two for my portfolio, I am relaxed now and waiting for the IDN market to improve. Meanwhile I am planning to develop one of my Russian IDNs and promote it in the Russian Internet space but I haven't chosen the project yet. Again, great news.

Well congratulations. We went cashflow negative for several years. I think if you look at the history of ASCII most of the big winners there went cashflow negative for extended periods of time, and negative bigtime. I guess there is nothing wrong with buying and flipping, in fact it may be the only solution. However, just as it sensible to not to be over amibitions, I think you need to be sure your not being underly ambitious, either.

Originally Posted by Wot

Am I the only one who thinks that is WAY too cheap , particularly after Turkey at $10K?

The real irony here is the one above it sold by Sedo, Actualite.com is a bloody Typo, but why was that so cheap. If that was the top term for NEWS it should have gone for an awful lot more than than. Perhaps Actualité.com would have fetched more!

[blastfromthepast]

Originally Posted by xxbossmanxx

Meh, tx M but most of my names are 2nd level, I used to own a bunch of stuff like moscow.com back in 2003 but now all I have is late 2006 scraps.

We've heard that sob story quite a few times too many. Its time to get over it, wipe the last tear up, and move on. As others that dropped names have wisely done.

[burnsinternet]

Originally Posted by filmlion

I am also glad for this news since all IDNs i have are Russian. Since I made a couple of good sales recently and covered all my expenses for the next year or two for my portfolio, I am relaxed now and waiting for the IDN market to improve. Meanwhile I am planning to develop one of my Russian IDNs and promote it in the Russian Internet space but I haven't chosen the project yet. Again, great news.

How do you get it indexed on Yandex?

[blastfromthepast]

Originally Posted by burnsinternet

How do you get it indexed on Yandex?

You pay them. The add site to Yandex page gives you a few options. They do take credit cards.

Otherwise, you risk arbitrary deletion and banning from their indexing, until you pay up.

[filmlion]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Well congratulations. We went cashflow negative for several years. I think if you look at the history of ASCII most of the big winners there went cashflow negative for extended periods of time, and negative bigtime. I guess there is nothing wrong with buying and flipping, in fact it may be the only solution. However, just as it sensible to not to be over amibitions, I think you need to be sure your not being underly ambitious, either.

Thanks, RD (it also stands for Russian Domains I guess, my personal solution for that so far is that i don't want to be a big winner (or have big risks) but just a winner. and also just in case i keep a list of second-to-premium names when the boom starts to make sure i will get into that train no matter what. I am talking about idn.idn, which i think would be a real winner if there won't be any national aliases for .com names.

[filmlion]

Originally Posted by burnsinternet

How do you get it indexed on Yandex?

there are several ways for that. long story short: be creative. basically, it's simple and free. yandex is much less powerful SE than google, so that's why it has both advantages and disadvantages, some little tricks can help to be indexed fast, but for the same reason, sometimes you do everything what's needed, and it just doesn't go through... some of my friends got this problem with their russian .com domains but others got russian .coms indexed in less than a month. if you need to get indexed fast, pm me and i'll give you a couple of hints.