IDN Disaster!!

[drbiohealth]

Can IDNs fail?

What might go wrong on the policy/implementation/usage front that would make our IDNs totally useless? And, with how much chance? I was just trying to think from a contrarian angle. Though I could not think of any such think, let's see what you guys say?

Cheers!
Raj

[Giant]

Don't worry! IDN is doing fine. From all the news I got, IDN is moving forward smoothly.

[IDNCowboy]

My IDNs are doing fine....

It's hard for japanese /chinese to register a name without looking up the correct translation.

They should be able to find domains in their native language.

[thegenius1]

Geez edit the title, you almost gave me a heart attack,,, LOL From what im reading everything is a go, and on the other side, this seems to be a No Brainer

[touchring]

I'm still not discounting an IE7 screw-up. It is better for the beta to be as long as possible so as to iron out more issues like the conflict with verisign plugin that trashes IDN support.

Anyone has the contact to the microsoft developer for the plugin? It will be good if he can be introduced to this forum.

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by thegenius1

Geez edit the title, you almost gave me a heart attack,,, LOL From what im reading everything is a go, and on the other side, this seems to be a No Brainer

There are a few disasters going on right now


.tv - Will it be a hit or not? I have alot invested in .tv . Many domainers said it would hit and i see them advertised on tv now but its being typed in by the masses yet.

.in/.co.in - ascii names - some ppl have claimed to sell over $100k in them. I also have invested in .in/.co.in


.eu ?? ... I have invested nothing in this.....

[drbiohealth]

Perhaps it would be worthwhile not investing in them.

Originally Posted by Jeff

There are a few disasters going on right now

.eu ?? ... I have invested nothing in this.....

[drbiohealth]

I totally agree with you that Microsoft should not release the final version untill most known problems have been ironed out. Ofcourse, it would a good idea to contact the person in charge of IDNs there.

Originally Posted by touchring

I'm still not discounting an IE7 screw-up. It is better for the beta to be as long as possible so as to iron out more issues like the conflict with verisign plugin that trashes IDN support.

Anyone has the contact to the microsoft developer for the plugin? It will be good if he can be introduced to this forum.

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by Jeff

There are a few disasters going on right now


.tv - Will it be a hit or not? I have alot invested in .tv . Many domainers said it would hit and i see them advertised on tv now but its being typed in by the masses yet.

.in/.co.in - ascii names - some ppl have claimed to sell over $100k in them. I also have invested in .in/.co.in


.eu ?? ... I have invested nothing in this.....

I vote .tv will be a hit, just isnt ripe enough yet.... It will be more so when Tvoip hits the mainstreem, and you can see we are just seing Voip.... But those others where kinda " Fency " but this is a Absolute No brainer IMHO, Unless something political gets in the way, i see us Scoring BigTime, Its like 1990 all over again in Different Languages.... But With the upside of The Internet as we Know it Already Being Paved, and not only that We are Aquiring these names @ 6.99.... Back in the Days they didnt know what the Upside was gonna be, and they had to shell out a Small Fortune to Reg the Names.... I fully agree when they say this may be the Last Gold Rush to hit the Net ..... I Rather loose Several thousand Dollars getting on the boat, Than missing out on the Potential of Small PowerBall Jackpot payouts, or long Term Residuals of good Quality developed Generics...

[IDNCowboy]

Originally Posted by thegenius1

I vote .tv will be a hit, just isnt ripe enough yet.... It will be more so when Tvoip hits the mainstreem, and you can see we are just seing Voip.... But those others where kinda " Fency " but this is a Absolute No brainer IMHO, Unless something political gets in the way, i see us Scoring BigTime, Its like 1990 all over again in Different Languages.... But With the upside of The Internet as we Know it Already Being Paved, and not only that We are Aquiring these names @ 6.99.... Back in the Days they didnt know what the Upside was gonna be, and they had to shell out a Small Fortune to Reg the Names.... I fully agree when they say this may be the Last Gold Rush to hit the Net ..... I Rather loose Several thousand Dollars getting on the boat, Than missing out on the Potential of Small PowerBall Jackpot payouts, or long Term Residuals of good Quality developed Generics...

I'm buying alot of .jp and .com's

I have a ton of .co.in /.in / .tv etc so thats where i spent my thousands and thats why my budget is now slacking for IDNs :P

oh well

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by thegenius1

I vote .tv will be a hit, just isnt ripe enough yet.... It will be more so when Tvoip hits the mainstreem, and you can see we are just seing Voip.... But those others where kinda " Fency " but this is a Absolute No brainer IMHO, Unless something political gets in the way, i see us Scoring BigTime, Its like 1990 all over again in Different Languages.... But With the upside of The Internet as we Know it Already Being Paved, and not only that We are Aquiring these names @ 6.99.... Back in the Days they didnt know what the Upside was gonna be, and they had to shell out a Small Fortune to Reg the Names.... I fully agree when they say this may be the Last Gold Rush to hit the Net ..... I Rather loose Several thousand Dollars getting on the boat, Than missing out on the Potential of Small PowerBall Jackpot payouts, or long Term Residuals of good Quality developed Generics...

Well from where I am sitting it is starting to look like a Lottery Jackpot Rollover, put on an 7 horse accumulator. It would seem that my last is horse is just about to negociate the last fence, and it is a long way ahead of the field.

[touchring]

I've offloaded two thirds of my latin.com over the past 3 mths to raise money for idns.

The logic is simple, i do not expect my .com to increase in value more than two or three times over the medium term even in the most bullish market situation, while the IDNs i buy from existing holders can appreciate 20-100 times.

Let's go back to the article that announced the 150k purchase (highest of it's time) for business.com - http://news.com.com/2100-1023-200256.html. Well, from this article, we know that CNET paid $15,000 for tv.com in 1996, and the owner of 'television.com' got mocked at by his friends when he rejected the 50K offer. I think that guy who sold tv.com would cry if he knows that his domain is worth a couple million today at the minimum, and possibly tens of millions in the future when tvoip takes off.

With companies rushing to buy up pieces of virtual real estate, the market for Internet domain names has become as wildly unpredictable as the art market in the 1980s. Domain names based on ordinary, easy-to-remember words, such as "tv.com" and "internet.com," fetch astronomical sums considering their original owners paid nothing or next to nothing to register them.

For example: Last year, the publishers of this site, CNET: The Computer Network, paid $15,000 for "tv.com." Before buying that address, however, CNET tentatively offered Mike O'Connor, cofounder of Internet access company Gofast.net, $50,000 for a similar domain name, "television.com."

O'Connor rejected the offer, thinking he could get more for the address. But new buyers never materialized. "I'm the dumbest guy on the planet for turning down that deal," he said. "That's why friends pour beer over my head and call me a nitwit."

What compels someone to buy a domain name for the cost of a decent one-bedroom condominium in San Francisco?

[drbiohealth]

Dave,

You must be the largest IDN porfolio holder around, I guess. Edwin must be second. Haven't heard of any other guy with that size! Raj

Nice logic!

Originally Posted by touchring

I've offloaded two thirds of my .com over the past 3 mths to raise money for idns.

The logic is simple, i do not expect my .com to increase in value more than two or three times over the medium term even in the most bullish market situation, while the IDNs i buy from existing holders can appreciate 20-100 times.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by drbiohealth

Dave,

You must be the largest IDN porfolio holder around, I guess. Edwin must be second. Haven't heard of any other guy with that size! Raj

Nice logic!

I think you'll find there are much bigger than me, but perhaps not as diversely spread.

Edwin has a nice portfolio, but I don't know whether he ranks that highly in terms of numbers or value even on here. I think you'll find that there are a few dark horses out there. There a members on here that virtually never post but email me on a regular basis. I also now that they are serious from past purchases that they have made.

Originally Posted by touchring

I've offloaded two thirds of my latin.com over the past 3 mths to raise money for idns.

The logic is simple, i do not expect my .com to increase in value more than two or three times over the medium term even in the most bullish market situation, while the IDNs i buy from existing holders can appreciate 20-100 times.

Let's go back to the article that announced the 150k purchase (highest of it's time) for business.com - http://news.com.com/2100-1023-200256.html. Well, from this article, we know that CNET paid $15,000 for tv.com in 1996, and the owner of 'television.com' got mocked at by his friends when he rejected the 50K offer. I think that guy who sold tv.com would cry if he knows that his domain is worth a couple million today at the minimum, and possibly tens of millions in the future when tvoip takes off.

I would think that 20-100 times would be reasonable for those that are buying in the secondary market. I am expecting some of mine to add 5 or 6 maybe even 7 Zeros!

[touchring]

Yes, more pre-boom sale prices:

http://www.igoldrush.com/feat2.htm

CNET bought these names for:

SEARCH.COM for $7,000
DOWNLOAD.COM for $20,000
TV.COM for $15,000

OTOH, CNET could have registered 500 $70 names instead of buying those using the same amount of money.

Originally Posted by drbiohealth

Dave,

You must be the largest IDN porfolio holder around, I guess. Edwin must be second. Haven't heard of any other guy with that size! Raj

Nice logic!

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

I think you'll find there are much bigger than me, but perhaps not as diversely spread.

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Hey dave when you get that Nice PowerBall payout can you adopt me ? lol im dead serious lol..... im laughing but im serious... After doing alot of searching you will find there are some other big dogs out there, but its great to be in the presence of one so you know this guys is a visionary

[Olney]

Just imagine when the market opens wide & we think of all the negative comments of "WHY" these domains are just worth reg fee....
Alot of you guys missed all that.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Olney

Just imagine when the market opens wide & we think of all the negative comments of "WHY" these domains are just worth reg fee....
Alot of you guys missed all that.

The difference between a Genius and a Fool, is the ability to change ones opinion when confronted with a logical argument.

The fools only try to emulate models of proven success. They are like sheep. When I am too senile to make any sense any more, they will seek my opinion, simply because in financial terms I will have a proven track record.

Olney you are a genius, but it was some argument we had back then, huh!

[thegenius1]

Originally Posted by Dwrixon

The difference between a Genius and a Fool, is the ability to change ones opinion when confronted with a logical argument.

!

I like this quote " Some People Just L@@k for the EXCEPTION in things that are EXCEPTIONAL " that is a very sad thing, But somebody in life gotta win

[touchring]

Originally Posted by thegenius1

I like this quote " Some People Just L@@k for the EXCEPTION in things that are EXCEPTIONAL " that is a very sad thing, But somebody in life gotta win

Sorry, can't catch your meaning.