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Old 21st May 2007, 07:52 PM
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Thanks asiaplay-but please comment

You said; 软饮料.cn Soft soft drinks (soft drink(s) should be 软料.cn - this is soft soft drinks where 2nd character literally means soft as in reverse of hard - uses traditional characters for HK & Taiwan only - really is a little strange for a .cn to use non-simplified characters, as is the mix of characters being a little strange)"


Thanks for your comment. But 软料 does not have many results in search.
What about this?

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...A5%AE%E6%96%99


may be i should think of chinese partner afterall; but still, can you comment on wikipedia entry for 软饮料 ?
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Re: Thanks asiaplay-but please comment

Hi again,

I might have made an error on this one... apologies..

I must admit this is starting to get a little outside my actual knowledge... as I do not know exact terms used in Taiwan & China for this sub-category of soft drinks (I will need to check with a Taiwanese friend & Mainland as well perhaps).
As wondering now if it is actually a term used in China as well as Taiwan... will have to check...

However it is not used in Hong Kong as far as I know... and is definitely a sub-group / sub-category of soft drinks that is referring to caffine rich drinks or cola type drinks only (red bull & colas)

Interesting enough the largest cola brand in China - Feichang kele is shown on this list... so maybe this term is also used in China.

I gain this idea on it being a subgroup from the fact that all drinks listed in the category are cola / caffine type drinks (basically redbull & colas).

If you are working on a specific project PM me and I will help you check (and keep it confidential)... as the beverage market I personally am not interested in, so no worries for you.. ok...
If you are just buying up domains - then the fact it appears in Wiki-pedia as a subcategory would suggest it is useful for the cola market (in Taiwan at least and probably China as well).

Hope these comments are useful and sorry I do not have a 100% answer for you on which countries this term is definitely used in at this stage (it is the problem when Western type products like cola and coffee enter the Chinese language - sometimes they enter with a strange new word - smile - and it is a little specialised for my level of Chinese.. but come to think of it - are these called colas or caffine drinks in English - even this I am not sure - lol !!!).

Great to see you are doing a deal of research before buying IDNs - great!!!...

Thanks also for asking for clarification - cheers, Asiaplay
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Re: Thanks asiaplay-but please comment

I think it's used in china; most of the sites with this are .cn, like:

http://www.ocn.com.cn/reports/2006173ruanyinliao.htm

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  近几年,我国软饮料年产量以超过20%的年均增长率递增,达到1300多万吨,软饮料市场已成为中国食品行业中发展最快的市场之一。In recent years, China's annual production of soft drinks to more than 20% of the average annual growth rate has increased to reach 130 million tons, soft drinks market has become China's food industry the fastest growing markets in the world. 2004年中国软饮料产量2373万吨,比2003年增长16.84%。In 2004, soft drink production 23.73 million tons, up 16.84% growth in 2003. 实现工业总产值(当年价)915.06亿元,销售收入878.02亿元,分别比上年同期增长18.98%和20.01%。Industrial product (then decide) 91.506 billion yuan, 87.802 billion yuan sales revenue. compared with the corresponding period of 18.98% and 20.01% growth.
   2005年软饮料产量3380万吨,比2004年增长24.08%。Soft drinks in 2005 yield 33.8 million tons, compared with growth of 24.08% in 2004. 2005年实现总产值(现价)1090.79亿元,销售收入1139.50亿元,分别比上年同期增长25.82%、24.97%。2005 output value (current value) 109.079 billion yuan, sales income of 113.95 billion yuan. respectively, over the same period last year 25.82%,24.97%.
   进入2006年软饮料行业依然保持产销两旺的态势,产成品、销售收入和利润都比上年同期有了较大幅度的增长。Enter the 2006 soft drink industry has maintained a trend of booming production and sales, finished products, Sales revenue and profits than the same period last year has been more dramatic growth. 2006年1-5月我国规模以上全部软饮料制造业工业总产值达到499.5亿元,比去年同期增长23.58%,累计资产总计达101.2亿元,比去年同期增加12.18%,利润总额为43.8亿元。January-May 2006 than in all of China's soft drink manufacturing industry output reached 49.95 billion yuan. than the 23.58% growth in the same period last year, total assets amounted to 10.12 billion yuan. over the same period last year increased 12.18%, the total profits of 4.38 billion yuan.

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Re: Thanks asiaplay-but please comment

Agree 100% - since the source of this is a China based website

Remember Wikapedia is a little dangerous as all HK (Cantonese), TW (Traditional Chinese) and China Mainland (Simplified Chinese) terms end up mixed-up, given that it is a "Chinese" version of Wikapedia (rather than it being a Cantonese, Taiwanese or Putonghua individual Chinese version - and often terms in these three locations are 100% different - even worse than American & British English really... as sometimes they choose to be different for no reason other than to be different!!!).

Personally if naming this sub-category - I would have used the character YIN from KAFEI YIN (which means literally "coffee" "caffine" to make the new sub-category.. but heah - soft verse hard makes logical sense to someone I am happy to call dumb who made this choice and made it what seems to be a new legitimate word.. hehe - opps.. I shh now).

So I change my opinion - I think will be useful as well (just maybe a little technical for awhile before becomes mainstream) - therefore (good buy if you market beverages in China & the ultimate drug drink that thank god is still legal !!!)

Cheers - Asiaplay
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