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Old 8th June 2007, 08:39 PM
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Hi, just an FYI that I sold:

xn--ok0bx68b.com (윪기.com) - organic - CORRECTION - 유기.com

for $2,000. It's a very popular word in Korea, I was told. $2k isn't that much relatively speaking but it's enough to get the sale AND IDNForum mentioned in the DNJournal, so that's good! (I told them the venue of sale was IDNForum so I hope they'll include that information.)

Have a good weekend!
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Old 8th June 2007, 08:53 PM
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No OVT.... NO Google?!?!?
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

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No OVT.... NO Google?!?!?
LOL. You underpriced your names!

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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Puny is different from unicode.

I think Lmg67 meant this 유기.com
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Yes I think so,

유기 is organic, and to other meaning is kind of Korean traditional metal vessel.
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Yet... 유기 only 6000 ovt... Korean Domains rocks... check my auction, lol.

On a serious note: I wish I had researched Korean domains sooner. But the real truth is that the open code punnycode encoder used by everyone (including IDNF) had a serious bug, on the Korean chars encoding! It was fixed recently.
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Me too, it seems that valuation has increased tremendously.
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Maybe time to sell SouthKorea, touchring. Sell high and all...
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Congrats, Laurie! I know you are keeping some good ones for yourself, too.

Your list of private sales are beginning to make me wonder why you stay under the radar. Stay there as long as you can....
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

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But the real truth is that the open code punnycode encoder used by everyone (including IDNF) had a serious bug, on the Korean chars encoding! It was fixed recently.
That may explain why there were so many crap Korean IDN's regged by (even) Koreans in the early days.

Have you got any tech info about the bug? Who found it?

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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Darn, made me go and check my names. Ok, they are real.

Does it affect every korean word or only some?
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That may explain why there were so many crap Korean IDN's regged by (even) Koreans in the early days.

Have you got any tech info about the bug? Who found it?

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I DID! My exchange of mails with Matthias Sommerfeld (phlyLabs.de) about that:

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> Try with 가가. Your app gives xn--ypda40ab instead of xn--o39aa.com!
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I decided to use the "official" VeriSign tool here http://mct.verisign-grs.com/index.shtml

to be really sure not to run into bugs anywhere else.
Unfortunately they also come up with your result. I guess, I will have to dig very deep in my source code to find the mistake. Most probably it is some issue with the fact, that PHP calculates with floating point numbers whereas C and C++ do use real integers.

> Is there a way around this?! Your app is very, very popular; I wonder how no one has found this before?!
Korean stabds out in the Unicode standard, since the characters need to be normalized in a very special way nearly no other language needs. So all the German, Russian, Japanese,... people out there would never run into this. I'll come back to you once I found the bug, but this may take its time.

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I've been working all night comparing RFCs word by word with what I hacked together, and now think, that I tracked down, what was wrong.
Please find attached a new version of the IDN class, which should handle Hangul syllables correctly now.

Please feel free to give it some hard tests
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> Thanks very much for the hard working debugging it.
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> You've asked me to do some hard tests and so I did. I am sorry to say,
> but it is still buggy. Check, for instance, 대출.
> Your code gives xn--yud7073f5xqa.com and should be xn--vk1bq81c.com

I can reproduce this, but am not sure yet, what causes this. I'll look into it the next days.

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> BTW: Have you ever fixed the Korean encoding problem?

Yes, at least I think so. The current version 0.5.1 has fixes for the Hangul syllable composition, which should clean that up.
Feel free to add my REP power. Thanks.
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Yikes.

Was it making the same error going in the other direction? puny->unicode?

Does this mean that php driven sites like NameDrive may have been serving up the wrong characters for korean IDN's?

How about php driven registrars like Dynadot?
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

I checked my lot, registered last March-May, they are all ok. I remembered checking kr whois as well, so they can't be wrong at the same time. My earliest kr name was dec 2005, that's ok as well.

False alarm?

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Bram's idntools.net is fine.

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Well spotted Jose.
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Thanks Burnsinternet!! Hey I like your new avatar!
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

wow i really let that name go to cheap what was i thinking congrats on the sale im kicking myself btw
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Remember that "cooking class" in Korean recently sold for $5,000, and "cell phone" for $36,000!!! When I posted my Korean names at DNForum, a Korean guy PM'd me and congratulated me on having "organic," saying it is a very popular word in Korea.

I would have held on to it for more money, but I needed IDN renewal money...so it was a win-win situation for both me and the buyer.
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

well im glad you made out well with it as i was debating on dropping it lol wtf was i thinking again congrats
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Re: IDNForum Korean name sold for 2K

Remember that "cooking class" in Korean recently sold for $5,000, and "cell phone" for $36,000!!! When I posted my Korean names at DNForum, a Korean guy PM'd me and congratulated me on having "organic," saying it is a very popular word in Korea.

I would have held on to it for more money now or in the future, but I needed IDN renewal money...so it was a win-win situation for both me and the buyer.

I always believe that all IDNers are on the same side as each other, cheering each other on, and it doesn't seem right to me that when someone makes a nice sale, and one that will be in DNJournal as an IDNForum sale, that others make fun of it. And it's not WHAT is said, it's HOW it's said.
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