2 european extensions to use IDN soon

[dabsi]

.es (spain) is to accept IDN starting next october

.eu (!) is to start with IDN Q1/2008, preregistering have started in Germany.

DABSI

[Asiaplay]

Hi there,

Couple of comments...

I thought .eu was already very much running for IDNs (interestingly enough I have seen several German sites already up and running on .eu IDNs - therefore they are well and truly past the pre-registration stage).

So I guess with the .eu one, something is strange with the pre-registration information you have read... makes me wonder now

.es has been discussed in the forums already (it seems it will be a closed game for IDNers - as the ascii holder of a word, by default, apparently gets the related IDN if they want it - which of course they will).

Cheers - Asiaplay

Opps - did I just answer a robot posting here!!! groan... time for me to sleep...

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Asiaplay

Opps - did I just answer a robot posting here!!! groan... time for me to sleep...

Unfortunately not, in this case...

.

[thefabfive]

I thought .eu was already very much running for IDNs (interestingly enough I have seen several German sites already up and running on .eu IDNs - therefore they are well and truly past the pre-registration stage).

Do you have any examples you could show? I was not aware of .eu offering IDN yet.

[IDNCowboy]

.eu does not offer IDNs yet in any language. It has said on the registry site they won't til october.

[dabsi]

strange reactions, it remembers me in early 2004 as I have started to register franch IDNs....

eu idn are not running yet , even nt for ü,ä and ö

Many registries have got this info eurid.
German IDNers have started to preregister german, french, spanish IDNs.
The largest registry in Germany is offering this and we have preregistred.

Bonne nuit

[L@@K]

Thanks Dabsi for the tips, but it's not very new...

Where do you prereg your eu please?
UD ?

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by L@@K

Thanks Dabsi for the tips, but it's not very new...

Where do you prereg your eu please?
UD ?

Preregs are nothing more than a sham, a scheme by registrars to get people to deposit money into their systems which is non-refundable.

From what I've seen, you have better chances hand-regging immediately after the launch.

.

[L@@K]

I'm not interested by prereg idn.eu at all, lol!

It was only by curiosity...

As i said i already noticed this several weeks ago.

[Asiaplay]

Originally Posted by thefabfive

Do you have any examples you could show? I was not aware of .eu offering IDN yet.

Hi Fabfive,

What I actually saw was a redirect to an ascii domain, from a German .eu IDN - this is the one I remember (I think - as I can not find it now quickly & to be honest do not want to spend hours looking for the one I remember seeing).

I could be wrong (as I have looked at too many IDNs of all extensions within the last month & hoping I am not dreaming and not remembering a .de link as a .eu one)... apologies if I am wrong (but strange as am sure I saw one - when checking out who the owners were of a couple of keywords I wanted & groaning as they were substandard sites - but not being parked & therefore truly gone as I saw it).

To be honest I stopped trying to look for .eu 3 weeks ago (as all the French, Spanish & German keywords I specifically wanted for my niche area are already registered for that extension & the European address issue is a hassle for me).

Anyway... this does not stop people registering what they like for .eu...

So if it is still open for what you want - why not go for it (others here think .eu is not great & .com rules... but personally if targeting European customers, I myself like the extension if the ccTLD keyword one wants is already gone for .fr, .de etc. (personally I like having the IDN for the country being targeted and see .eu as the next best step to that, if the .com is gone... as it does suggest a presence in Europe / focus on Europe over being based somewhere else).

What I am not sure on is how .eu will be ranked on localised Search Engine results (e.g. yahoo.de / google.de etc.) - guess if really is pre-register only, then we will not know until later.

I was hoping that it will get results without having to be hosted in the country of that language (e.g. doesn't have to be hosted in Germany to show on the yahoo.de search engine results) - not sure yet... but was a consideration for me with any domain that is not ccTLD (as is a definite limit to how many servers I myself can afford to hold at the moment around the world - so nice if I can base all European language IDNs on one server with different master IPs and get into all European local country results at the same preference as ccTLD).
Logic is that I think .de IDNs will rank for Germany localised Search results for example - no matter where in the world the IDN is hosted.

Cheers, Asiaplay

[dabsi]

In 'civilised' countries, you only pay when you get your name.

The same registrar is pricing a fee of 1 EUR for each registred .eu (max 10 domains per client)); the thing is it's in German; should not be a problem as an IDner should speak at least 4 languages....

DABSI

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by dabsi

In 'civilised' countries, you only pay when you get your name.

The same registrar is pricing a fee of 1 EUR for each registred .eu (max 10 domains per client)); the thing is it's in German; should not be a problem as an IDner should speak at least 4 languages....

DABSI

No, the criteria is owning the names, not speaking the languages.

There were a huge number of scams in dot EU pre-registrations. I got burnt myself. Much of the problem arose from the shear incompetence of the registry, but I can assure that the money I was conned out of went to Germany. Most of the scams were run from Germany. Please don't bring your arrogant hypocrisy here. Germans are not somehow superior to everyone else. If you need convincing, take a look at the Per Capita GDP league tables. A bunch of also rans!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita

1 Flag of Luxembourg Luxembourg 87,955 2005
2 Flag of Norway Norway 72,306 2005
3 Flag of Monaco Monaco 67,000[citation needed] 2005
4 Flag of Qatar Qatar 62,914 2005
5 Flag of Iceland Iceland 54,858 2005
6 Flag of Republic of Ireland Ireland 52,440 2005
7 Flag of Switzerland Switzerland 51,771 2006
8 Flag of Denmark Denmark 50,965 2005
9 Flag of United States United States 44,190 2006
10 Flag of Sweden Sweden 42,383 2006
11 Flag of Netherlands Netherlands 40,571 2006
12 Flag of Finland Finland 40,197 2005
13 Flag of United Kingdom United Kingdom 39,213 2005
14 Flag of Austria Austria 38,961 2006
15 Flag of Canada Canada 38,951 2006
16 Flag of Belgium Belgium 37,214 2006
17 Flag of Australia Australia 36,553 2004
18 Flag of France France 35,404 2006
19 Flag of Germany Germany 35,204 2006
20 Flag of Japan Japan 34,188 2005

[Alphamale]

Originally Posted by dabsi

... an IDner should speak at least 4 languages....

DABSI

hello Wabssi I have missed your wit and poisioned posts - where have you been?

[touchring]

Originally Posted by dabsi

In 'civilised' countries, you only pay when you get your name.

The same registrar is pricing a fee of 1 EUR for each registred .eu (max 10 domains per client)); the thing is it's in German; should not be a problem as an IDner should speak at least 4 languages....

DABSI

ABC European -> considered 1 language. Like Mandarin and Cantonese is considered 1 language.

[dabsi]

Hi Alphamale,

I was living without domains; life is also worth with IDN. I'm happy since I've given up the idea that with our golden portfolio we would get thousands of views.

The mass has been deleted, and we kept only the premiums which can survive on their own.

One uses to say that when his driver is investing in stocks, it was time to leave the scene for a while. There is an inflation of IDNers currently which register first and then ask for the right spelling; that's a very bad sign.

At the end they will additionally learn that I'm right: IDN.ASCII won't work save for latin IDN which makes sense as even english, german and other keyboards can produce accents (for newbies, accents is the small thing on top of some letters in french like crédit....).

But if your convinced that I'm wrong, and that's what I which: bid for the total package of arabicdomainnames.net.

DABSI

Post Scriptum: think or drink = register or drink

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by dabsi

Hi Alphamale,

I was living without domains; life is also worth with IDN. I'm happy since I've given up the idea that with our golden portfolio we would get thousands of views.

The mass has been deleted, and we kept only the premiums which can survive on their own.

One uses to say that when his driver is investing in stocks, it was time to leave the scene for a while. There is an inflation of IDNers currently which register first and then ask for the right spelling; that's a very bad sign.

At the end they will additionally learn that I'm right: IDN.ASCII won't work save for latin IDN which makes sense as even english, german and other keyboards can produce accents (for newbies, accents is the small thing on top of some letters in french like crédit....).

But if your convinced that I'm wrong, and that's what I which: bid for the total package of arabicdomainnames.net.

DABSI

Post Scriptum: think or drink = register or drink

Well clearly it is Latin that is in most trouble at the moment because that is what you have and your the one bailing out. You won't be missed. It will be interesting to see if anyone bothers to snap any of your drops.

[touchring]

mass has been deleted -> i do not see masses of latins deleted. when did you delete them?

ye, in the past, the few names you mentioned not registered, they are either tms or useless.

[dabsi]

why so aggressive?

Keep cool

we use to say that half knowledge can be very dangerous. You seems to know everything since you have discovered wikipedia.... even what I have deleted and what not.

I admit I have to give up.....

Pauvre Gars

DABSI