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Giant 1st March 2006 01:23 AM

Stats From China
 
Today March 1, 2006 10 AM Beijing Time

My server has received about 400uv from my IDN.com domains (in China) in the last 10 hours. That means IDN.com is still functioning as usual.

But the traffic is only 40% of the day before. Something did happen? Or maybe not, traffic on the first 2 days of the month is normally less busy.

IDNclub 1st March 2006 02:26 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
Today March 1, 2006 10 AM Beijing Time

My server has received about 400uv from my IDN.com domains (in China) in the last 10 hours. That means IDN.com is still functioning as usual.

But the traffic is only 40% of the day before. Something did happen? Or maybe not, traffic on the first 2 days of the month is normally less busy.


I believe that 'dot CN' IDNs will showing some different but '.COM/.NET' won't

Giant 1st March 2006 03:07 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IDNclub
I believe that 'dot CN' IDNs will showing some different but '.COM/.NET' won't

Not exactly, IDN.com picks up traffic because of the browser. By default, "control"+"Enter" will send traffic to .com. But win2000 Chinese Windows send traffic to .com.cn (NOT .cn), that's why you won't see a lot of .cn traffic.

Maybe you're right, IDN.cn will be supported BETTER now.

kenne 1st March 2006 03:22 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
Not exactly, IDN.com picks up traffic because of the browser. By default, "control"+"Enter" will send traffic to .com. But win2000 Chinese Windows send traffic to .com.cn (NOT .cn), that's why you won't see a lot of .cn traffic.

That sure is bad for .cn traffic:mad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
Maybe you're right, IDN.cn will be supported BETTER now.

Is Giant's traffic showing evidence of this? If so, how is the better support done?

Thanks,

Giant 1st March 2006 03:38 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenne
That sure is bad for .cn traffic:mad:

Is Giant's traffic showing evidence of this? If so, how is the better support done?

Thanks,

No, I own only 5 .cn, and the traffic is close to ZERO.

By BETTER, I mean the giant telecom companies have built in the support for IDN, you type in IDN.中国, it should work now. (still wait for confirm)

Rubber Duck 1st March 2006 07:47 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
Today March 1, 2006 10 AM Beijing Time

My server has received about 400uv from my IDN.com domains (in China) in the last 10 hours. That means IDN.com is still functioning as usual.

But the traffic is only 40% of the day before. Something did happen? Or maybe not, traffic on the first 2 days of the month is normally less busy.

I think is likely that a lot of people will be experimenting typing in with the New IDN.IDN and so IDN.com will slow up for a day or two until the novelty starts to wear off.

Edwin 1st March 2006 11:08 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
But the traffic is only 40% of the day before. Something did happen? Or maybe not, traffic on the first 2 days of the month is normally less busy.

If it continues to drop, it could be that the DNS servers in China are still cacheing their old DNS settings for a few days (therefore you're getting residual traffic) but it's an indication the traffic is dropping towards zero because of changes introduced to the Chinese Root, as some (including me) were speculating on the other thread.

So the next 3-5 days are crucial. If the traffic rebounds, it was a slow stats day or some other thing like the novelty effect. If it stays down and drops further, it means that China really is going it alone in a "walled garden".

Rubber Duck 1st March 2006 11:20 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edwin
If it continues to drop, it could be that the DNS servers in China are still cacheing their old DNS settings for a few days (therefore you're getting residual traffic) but it's an indication the traffic is dropping towards zero because of changes introduced to the Chinese Root, as some (including me) were speculating on the other thread.

So the next 3-5 days are crucial. If the traffic rebounds, it was a slow stats day or some other thing like the novelty effect. If it stays down and drops further, it means that China really is going it alone in a "walled garden".

Of course it has to be a walled Garden! IDN.IDN cannot reasonably be released everywhere in a single moment. It seems to me that the Chinese have been bold going as far as they have. If they don't "wall off" that part of the Internet that is instrinsically acting differently than everywhere else they would risk causing chaos.

It will have little to do with caching. What has been changed has been changed at the Root Servers. This is all being done at the Top Level. Either the Chinese have Punycode into their Root Servers or they are using DName aliasing. I think the latter is more likely because that seems to be the way things are going.

I think we should be looking at this as the first phase of the roll out of IDN.IDN. The only slight fly in the ointment is that both CNNIC and Verisign have laid claim to a single extension. I don't believe that is sufficiently important for either of them to want to cause Arnarchy. Anyone that knows anything about Verisign would know that domains is only a small part of what they do now. China is going to be their most important market in a few years time. Why would they want to trash all that when they can just opt for a different Alias that would work as well if not better than the one they are disputing.

Anyone that knows anything about negotiation knows that you place great importance on the things that you are willing to concede before you concede them to maximize your negotiating leverage.

I think there is another piece of telling evidence here. Everything that goes on in China is reported with in an often very confrontational way by the Western Media notably the BBC. If something if the Internet was really being split asunder as we are being led to believe, I think one might have expected this to have reached the press by now. Not only ICANN but other large technology groups actually have whole sections of their workforces given over to PR. It seems surprising therefore that such a monumental event is not even given rise to the odd conjectural story in the Western Press. Everything I have seen to date has come from China.

Giant 3rd March 2006 04:14 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
My new stats show the traffic is up to 55% of last month. But there's nothing to be worried. We found out that's the clitch at ISP causing problems to all domains including .cn. All traffics in China are down.

Good news: After Mar. 1, 2006, registrations of IDN.com in China are up at least 50% (estimate). People start discussing IDN.com now, instead of IDN.cn! We certainly don't understand a lot of things in China.

touchring 3rd March 2006 05:59 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giant
Good news: After Mar. 1, 2006, registrations of IDN.com in China are up at least 50% (estimate). People start discussing IDN.com now, instead of IDN.cn! We certainly don't understand a lot of things in China.

Quite surprising, where did you find this report? I'm not surprised that people are not registering less idn.com, but 50% more?? :)

Rubber Duck 3rd March 2006 06:04 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Rock, like its 1999!!!

Giant 3rd March 2006 06:17 AM

Re: Stats From China
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by touchring
Quite surprising, where did you find this report? I'm not surprised that people are not registering less idn.com, but 50% more?? :)

The data collected by myself from different places. I have been doing this for some time. What I really want to see is the large number of registration from China, and the number is growing now.


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