..and now for somethig completely diferent - IDN Forums

jose · #1 03-06-2006, 07:48 PM

The first "...and now for something completely diferent" is mine:

http://www.idnforums.com/forums/973-casino♠-com.html

This is the second of the series, "...and now for somethig completely diferent":

How about DUAL IDN-NON-IDN Domains:

I've grabbed those:
xn--xxx.net
xn--idn.net
xn--usa.net
xn--job.com

But these are still available:
xn--www net only ch
xn--pro com AVAIL
xn--dog com AVAIL nice char
xn--com net only
xn--ftp com AVAIL
xn--web not valid
xn--dns com avail chin
xn--biz net only chin
xn--net not avail
xn--buy com avail chin
xn--dvd com avail chin
xn--dot com avail chin
xn--b2b com avail strange ch
xn--nnn com avail

Their value?
a. Easy to remember
b. Easy to type
c. Work on almost all browsers
d. One char!!
e. Funny
f. Diferent

kenne · #2 03-06-2006, 08:36 PM

its charm is not obvious, rather subtle

Now I have a new outlet for my addiction...

blastfromthepast · #3 03-06-2006, 10:06 PM

Some fool tried to market one of the xxx ones on afternic as a "great adult domain."

jose · #4 03-06-2006, 10:14 PM

Lemme c if I got this straight: U calling mi a fool?

Drewbert · #5 03-07-2006, 01:15 AM

What worries me is if IP owners start to UDRP IDN names because they just HAPPEN to have a string in them that corresponds to a Mark.

I'm sure there are legal IDN's out there with "ibm" somewhere in the punycode.

idnowner · #6 03-07-2006, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbert

What worries me is if IP owners start to UDRP IDN names because they just HAPPEN to have a string in them that corresponds to a Mark.

I'm sure there are legal IDN's out there with "ibm" somewhere in the punycode.

That doesn't seem to be a realistic concern.

blastfromthepast · #7 03-07-2006, 02:00 AM

fool (plural: fools)
1. A person with poor judgment or little intelligence.
2. A jester, a person whose role was to entertain Domain Name Kings and Queens at court.
3. A type of dessert made of puréed fruit and custard or cream.

touchring · #8 03-07-2006, 02:35 AM

This is interesting:

A jester, a person whose role was to entertain Domain Name Kings and Queens at court.

Drewbert · #9 03-07-2006, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idnowner

That doesn't seem to be a realistic concern.

Go to and ICANN meeting and sit next to Johnathan Cohen and see if you change your mind.

http://ipc.dnso.icann.org/

IDNCowboy · #10 03-07-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idnowner

That doesn't seem to be a realistic concern.

You definitely have no clue
IDN names that look like ascii names like sex.com will be used by "sex.com"
I have trademarks on most of my sites and I'd UDRP whoever tried anything of that nature.

idnowner · #11 03-07-2006, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

You definitely have no clue
IDN names that look like ascii names like sex.com will be used by "sex.com"
I have trademarks on most of my sites and I'd UDRP whoever tried anything of that nature.

I'm referring to a domain like xn--3jibm-d.com (that has IBM in the "xn--" encoded version) but may be a Japanese word that has nothing to do with "IBM" where the IDN displayed does not "look like" something that it's not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

You definitely have no clue
IDN names that look like ascii names like sex.com will be used by "sex.com"
I have trademarks on most of my sites and I'd UDRP whoever tried anything of that nature.

Sorry Jeff - you have no clue. I have seen your posts before - you make incorrect assumption and go off the deep end. I was talking about a domain where the xn--version had a sequence of characters that may coincidentally match a known brand or something - so a domain like xn--jzqibm2s.com has "ibm" in the encoded string - but does not conflict with the IBM trademark.

IDNCowboy · #12 03-08-2006, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idnowner

I'm referring to a domain like xn--3jibm-d.com (that has IBM in the "xn--" encoded version) but may be a Japanese word that has nothing to do with "IBM" where the IDN displayed does not "look like" something that it's not.

Sorry Jeff - you have no clue. I have seen your posts before - you make incorrect assumption and go off the deep end. I was talking about a domain where the xn--version had a sequence of characters that may coincidentally match a known brand or something - so a domain like xn--jzqibm2s.com has "ibm" in the encoded string - but does not conflict with the IBM trademark.

alright i thought the way he said it he was referring to the string cause you made a reference to trademarking.......

Yes I do know what i'm talking about but sometimes due to the confusing discussion of the first poster who isn't entirely sure of an answer it may come out the wrong way when I look at it.

blastfromthepast · #13 03-08-2006, 04:26 AM

✡✡.com

Double Star of David
Symbol Domain
xn--tcia.com

Just immagine the conspiracy theorists getting to this one.

IDNCowboy · #14 03-08-2006, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

✡✡.com

Double Star of David
Symbol Domain
xn--tcia.com

Just immagine the conspiracy theorists getting to this one.

what font do you have installed to see this? i just see boxes

blastfromthepast · #15 03-08-2006, 04:31 AM

Jeff, I have a Mac, so support for all languages is installed by default.

The symbol is available in Zapf Dingbats font, as well as FreeSerif, and Arial Unicode MS.

Drewbert · #16 03-08-2006, 04:58 AM

Janet Jackson might want to buy that domain off you.

idnceo · #17 03-08-2006, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

✡✡.com

Double Star of David
Symbol Domain
xn--tcia.com

Blastfromthepast, you are one of my idols. Some of your novelty symbols are awesome.

By the way, regarding your comment about MAC, i think IDNers should buy a Mac. it is really a great computer to work when buying IDNs. I can start my computers in 10 languages without installing another OS, i mean i start the computer in japanese, later i change language setup to chinese to use the language tools of a Chinese OS -dictonary, grammar check, etc. and after a restart everything is in chinese, later english, korean, etc, etc.

Mac is very IDN friendly if you allow me the expression, and i really dont see the point of having a windows pc that doesnt get along very well with many international languages, or that you have to keep installing many language tools,etc. Anyway just a technical advice, mac is better than pc to buy IDNs if you need to have access to many languages, dictionaries, grammar checking as you type in other languages without downloading anything else, etc, etc.

blastfromthepast · #18 03-08-2006, 01:08 PM

Thanks for the fan mail. Yes, Macs do better with IDNs, and the default browser Safari has been supporting them for about a year. Since there's no IE, the non default choices are good as well. Apple actively promoted IDNs in Japan in advertising as long as a year ago.

Drewbert · #19 03-08-2006, 06:38 PM

Of course the Mac is better!

But this leads to the question...

Are us Mac users buying domains that look fine to us, but don't to all the sheep because they don't have full Unicode fonts available?

blastfromthepast · #20 03-09-2006, 01:56 PM

Don't worry. Just because the Mac is up to speed with Unicode 4.0+ standards, doesn't mean that MS won't be sometime soon. It just gives us a better advantage to grab those symbol domains and even domains in ranges from newly encoded character sets for languages that just got approved, that people aren't aware of in that other world.

I just got stuck with another issue however. Apparently Windows users don't know how to type things like ¢ that are a simple key stroke away on the Mac!

http://www.dnforum.com/f298/25-com-thread-137590.html