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Old 21st September 2007, 06:22 PM
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Mattel Smoke Screen

It seems Mattel decided to kill two birds with one stone. It would appear that blaming the Chinese for their recalls was little more than a smoke screen, as most of the problem was absolutely not China's fault. It would seem that collectively smearing emerging competition is all part of the deal.

Shame the apology did not get the same kind of headlines the initial and largely false allegations got.

If the Chinese were as savvy as the Americans on legal proceedings, they would be having their arses sued already!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7006599.stm
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

Too true...

I am sure Mattel's cost base has just increased as well... really I guess one should be paid more for dealing with a customer who potentially leads one to suicide

It will be interesting to see if USA news just misses this story (as it is a USA company at fault) or the saga continues to be news in the USA or not?

But alas I guess it has tarnished the whole production industry in China for the short-term... but we also all know it will also bounce back (and all said and done, the biggest losers will be USA customers, who will bear the cost of companies like Mattel not having decent internal quality programs in place and the cost of having these implemented by third party accreditation companies (yes the old - add a 1000 per shipment so we can check and find nothing that the customer could not find themselves "American Accredited Test House" and then say all is ok).

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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

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But alas I guess it has tarnished the whole production industry in China for the short-term... but we also all know it will also bounce back (and all said and done, the biggest losers will be USA customers, who will bear the cost of companies likel

The rest of asia can't beat china in terms of manufacturing, so unless you move the toy factories to europe or america, which is quite impossible.
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

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It seems Mattel decided to kill two birds with one stone. It would appear that blaming the Chinese for their recalls was little more than a smoke screen, as most of the problem was absolutely not China's fault. It would seem that collectively smearing emerging competition is all part of the deal.

Shame the apology did not get the same kind of headlines the initial and largely false allegations got.

If the Chinese were as savvy as the Americans on legal proceedings, they would be having their arses sued already!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7006599.stm

These type of smear tactics used to introduce FUD to the public about Chinese products are only the beginning of the trade war. I suspect that there was diplomatic intervention behind the coming clean, but I can't imagine what might have forced it.

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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

So will work like this be moved back to the US? You need to downgrade to third world status to start making toys again.




Or shouldn't the US be doing this instead?


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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

The US is not even in the hunt for the global car market.

Costs are too high and generally the level of technology is appalling.
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

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The US is not even in the hunt for the global car market.

Costs are too high and generally the level of technology is appalling.

As far as i can see, aside from financial, the US core competency is in IT and this is slowly being exported to India.
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As far as i can see, aside from financial, the US core competency is in IT and this is slowly being exported to India.
The US core competencies are scamming and litigation.

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The US core competencies are scamming and litigation.

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Yes, and I think some countries will quickly learn to compete even at that level. :p

It would seem that China extracted the apology, as it would seem it was delivered after a stage managed public berating!

The leverage it would seem was the possibility of interrupting supplies for Christmas. Basically, if China won't make their toys, Mattel is in a big hole!
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

You really think Mattel ordered lead paint coating in their specifications for their toys? Bad design of toys with small parts,
choking hazards etc. yeah Mattel should be taken to task for approving the designs and prototypes. Seems like blame
for this fiasco should be shared by all parties from design to quality control to manufacturing.
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

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The US core competencies are scamming and litigation.

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Well, tis is basically what capitalism is about, to make money in whatever ways you can, as long as you don't land in the jails. Dont' forget, the chinese invented "money", a.k.a. financial system. Before that, people hauled silver and gold pieces to buy land.

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You really think Mattel ordered lead paint coating in their specifications for their toys? Bad design of toys with small parts,
choking hazards etc. yeah Mattel should be taken to task for approving the designs and prototypes. Seems like blame
for this fiasco should be shared by all parties from design to quality control to manufacturing.
Well it would seem that design responsibility rests with Mattel. From what I understand they produce the design and the Chinese contract to manufacture.

Clearly the Lead Paint is due to sub-contractors cutting corners, but if you put excessive price pressure on sub-contractors that are totally dependent on your orders without checking the quality of the goods, then frankly what else can you expect?

Mattel are essentially making a lot of money out of selling cheap plastic mouldings, with a bit of paint and a few mechanical parts at very high prices in the US. OK, some of this is down to clever design and marketing, but much of it is also down to an inherent trust that the US consumer has placed in the brand. It is clear that the US consumer has been very badly let down.

As for joint responsibility, it would seem as grave as the lead paint problem undoubtedly is, the more serious problems in this instance were down to design and specification of the magnetic parts, and these accounted for over 90% of the recalls. What hit the press was almost entirely about the lead paint. It is undoubtedly the case that the whole of Made in China brand has been made the fall guy for Mattels own short comings. Yes, the subcontractor who applied the paint problem has a responsibility. I believe he paid with his life!
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Re: Mattel Smoke Screen

Lead paint in toys? I won't be surprised if unscruplous businessmen start using lead white paint to make water look like milk! These people need to be taught a lesson.

Fake mik scandal in China.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_346015.htm



An undergrown six-month-old baby girl who has suffered malnutrition due to the use of bogus milk powder stands with a normal baby of her age on June 12 this year in Ruicheng County, North China's Shanxi Province. [newsphoto]
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The US core competencies are scamming and litigation.

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Denial appears to be a strongpoint.

Especially in the political and financial sectors.
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Denial appears to be a strongpoint.

Especially in the political and financial sectors.
Yes, and it seems to spill over heavily in to the domaining field as well!
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Denial appears to be a strongpoint.

Especially in the political and financial sectors.


Denial? If the US leadership tells the truth, how can they make this kind of money? Information is money, but this works only when the majority of people don't have that information. So you create a smokescreen long enough for the people with connections to bail out.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss

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Denial? If the US leadership tells the truth, how can they make this kind of money? Information is money, but this works only when the majority of people don't have that information. So you create a smokescreen long enough for the people with connections to bail out.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...%7D&siteid=rss
No surely not! Acting on insider information is highly illegal.
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