Dingbats banned?

[burnsinternet]

Sometimes people collect things (e.g. sea shells, figurines, stamps) without really ever claiming that those things will be valuable. If this is your choice, then who cares what others think? I am in that camp.

My few dingbats have much better stats than my various Thai domains. I plan to hold on to both for a long time.

Finally, no one can really say that those dingbat domains will NEVER be valuable. It is likely, yes. But you don't REALLY know that.

If some of us want to keep a few around to remind us of the old days.... Leave us be.

[domainguru]

Originally Posted by burnsinternet

Sometimes people collect things (e.g. sea shells, figurines, stamps) without really ever claiming that those things will be valuable. If this is your choice, then who cares what others think? I am in that camp.

My few dingbats have much better stats than my various Thai domains. I plan to hold on to both for a long time.

Finally, no one can really say that those dingbat domains will NEVER be valuable. It is likely, yes. But you don't REALLY know that.

If some of us want to keep a few around to remind us of the old days.... Leave us be.

Sure, but your Thai domains will still resolve next year, you can be 99.999% sure of that.

I'm certainly not telling anyone to not renew, it is of course your choice. But there are a surprising number of people around that have no real idea of what processes are happening at the moment regarding dingbats and other unicode symbols. I have followed it all on the IETF mailing list for a year or more. Believe me, Dingbats are not seen as having a future by those setting current and future standards for what can and what can't be included in IDNs.

So yes, I DO know that. You might be less keen to pay renewal fees in a year's time when they are getting 0 visits a month and no prospects of getting visits any time again in the future.

[IDNer]

Have make a test and found -

xn--b6hcdefghij.com (♠♡♢♣♤♥♦♧♨.com) Taken
xn--b6hcdefghij.net (♠♡♢♣♤♥♦♧♨.net) Taken
xn--p3hadef19chaijk.com (♩♪♫♬♭★★☆☇☈.com) Taken
xn--p3hadef19chaijk.net (♩♪♫♬♭★★☆☇☈.net) Taken
xn--q3hcdefgh.com (☆☇☈☉☊☋☌.com) Taken
xn--q3hcdefgh.net (☆☇☈☉☊☋☌.net) Taken

and Whois record shown -

No match for domain "xn--b6hcdefghij.com (♠♡♢♣♤♥♦♧♨.com)"
No match for domain "xn--p3hadef19chaijk.com (♩♪♫♬♭★★☆☇☈.com)"
No match for domain "xn--q3hcdefgh.com (☆☇☈☉☊☋☌.com)"

I do believe that it's not accept the dingbat domain registration now...

[burnsinternet]

No problem. I only have a couple of them.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by burnsinternet

Did those ever resolve to unicode anyway? Mine only resolved using the Verisign plugin. Not with IE7.

Mine resolves all the time. Warnings are not a big problem.

[goidn]

Question:
Would you consider these guys to be dingbats::

匝.COM &

礁.COM ?

They are one-letter words.

I'm loaded with this sheet

[Rubber Duck]

No. Anything that is considered necessary to write a language is definitely OK!

What we are talking about are little pictographs that have been designed recently, and that definitely doesn't include Simplified Chinese!

Originally Posted by goidn

Question:
Would you consider these guys to be dingbats::

匝.COM &

礁.COM ?

They are one-letter words.

I'm loaded with this sheet

[Giant]

匝 & 礁 are Chinese characters.

I think RD and Domainguru have done their homework, they know what they are talking --- all dingbats will become invalid.

Originally Posted by burnsinternet

Maybe. But I don't believe mass deletion (or any deletion) will occur. They will happily collect renewal fees.

your renewal fee is collected by the Registry, not by the IDN team of engineers that reccommend the exclusion of dingbats.

The chief engineers in the IDN team have voiced their intention to exclude dingbats a few times in the last 2 years, not because they want to but they have to, to improve the Nameprep algorithm or specs.

Originally Posted by touchring

Mine resolves all the time. Warnings are not a big problem.

Once ICANN makes it fomal and browsers use the updated version of Nameprep, all dingbats will be shown as invalid domains although VeriSign would still keep your (registered) dingbat punycode in their database.

[jose]

Question: Is € a dingbat?

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by jose

Question: Is € a dingbat?

No, but that does mean to say it is not at risk.

The philosophy is that only characters required to write a language where possible. Even some of those are not going to make the cut.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

No, but that does mean to say it is not at risk.

The philosophy is that only characters required to write a language where possible. Even some of those are not going to make the cut.

Are punctuation marks a dingbat?

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by touchring

Are punctuation marks a dingbat?

No, but they may not all be permissible. It is likely that the apostrophe will be allow in French, but it is unlikely that inverted question marks or indeed any form of question mark will be allowed.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by domainguru

€.net resolves fine in Firefox, but in IE7 it shows a warning saying something like "this domain contains characters that cannot be displayed with current language settings" and then an option to add new languages, but I somehow doubt there is a language that will accept it....

It might work if you add EN-GB or a European language.

.

[jose]

Is ɢ.com a dingbat? (works on unchanged ie7)

[domainguru]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

It might work if you add EN-GB or a European language.

.

Tried that. Doesn't work. But besides, not to labour the point, symbols like these are on domain death row.

[burnsinternet]

Originally Posted by jose

Is ɢ.com a dingbat? (works on unchanged ie7)

Not a dingbat. Symbols versus scripts.

http://www.unicode.org/charts/symbols.html

http://www.unicode.org/charts/index.html

[phio]

Question: What about dingbats as a redirect site. For example if you have copyright.net -- could you redirect it to the dingbat domain ©.net
©.net would show up in the browserbar or the punycode would show.

Note: I'm fairly new to this, but I do have one dingbat that I would like to use
in redirection. Of course if they are cancelled, it doesn't matter.

any thoughts?

[burnsinternet]

If they resolve and show up in the browser, it would be up for discussion.

However, you don't want to forward from unicode to xn--blahblahblah.net punycode. Bad idea.

I don't think it is worth considering.

[phio]

Question: What about dingbats as a redirect site. For example if you have copyright.net -- could you redirect it to the dingbat domain ©.net
©.net would show up in the browserbar or the punycode would show.

Note: I'm fairly new to this, but I do have one dingbat that I would like to use
in redirection. Of course if they are cancelled, it doesn't matter.

any thoughts?

[mulligan]

Originally Posted by phio

Question: What about dingbats as a redirect site. For example if you have copyright.net -- could you redirect it to the dingbat domain ©.net
©.net would show up in the browserbar or the punycode would show.

Note: I'm fairly new to this, but I do have one dingbat that I would like to use
in redirection. Of course if they are cancelled, it doesn't matter.

any thoughts?

Yes, IF you own copyright.net or can persuade the owner to do a deal with you