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Old 15th October 2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

Can't wait to hear dabsi's comment.

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Old 15th October 2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Can't wait to hear dabsi's comment.

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You mean the World's Most Famous Arabic Domainer?

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Originally Posted by Fka200
I agree. I can't wait till نت (net) extension is IDN'd. كوم sounds like sh!t. I've spent the last 4 months researching this TLD issue, and I've come to interesting conclusions. From asking random people on the street to a bit more ridiculous things (in the Middle East of course).
Perhaps you should spend a little time researching what Verisign proposed originally!
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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You mean the World's Most Famous Arabic Domainer?!
She has a few top names, but strangely does not believe in them. I think she should sell them to me on the cheap!

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She has a few top names, but strangely does not believe in them. I think she should sell them to me on the cheap!

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Flipper!

Of course her other problem is that she believes what those fools at Sedo tell her!
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

Dave, can you explain a little bit? Maybe I missed something or am not thinking clearly this early in the morning...
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Old 15th October 2007, 05:55 PM
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Dave, can you explain a little bit? Maybe I missed something or am not thinking clearly this early in the morning...
The original proposals were for single characters.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Originally Posted by domainguru
You should care. Hundreds of thousands of people across the globe will access these test URLs and lose confidence in the whole IDN thing. They get promised domains in their own language and all they see is xn--.xn--, how disappointing is that?

Maybe if this testbed shines an embarrassingly bright spotlight on Mozilla's whitelisting policy, some good will come out of it.
Looks like Mozilla are going to cover up this fiasco..

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397803

"ICANN are starting a test of IDN in the root.
http://icann.org/announcements/annou...-2-19jun07.htm
This involves adding 11 test TLDs to the root, so software can be tested to see
if it works with them.

We should add these 11 "test" TLDs to our IDN whitelist, to allow Firefox users
to participate fully in the test. Once the TLDs are removed from the root at
the end of the test period, we can remove them again."
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Old 15th October 2007, 06:17 PM
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

Well with Opera being heralded as the only Browser that works properly, I guess they were feeling some heat. I guess they will be feeling a lot more soon!

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Looks like Mozilla are going to cover up this fiasco..

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397803

"ICANN are starting a test of IDN in the root.
http://icann.org/announcements/annou...-2-19jun07.htm
This involves adding 11 test TLDs to the root, so software can be tested to see
if it works with them.

We should add these 11 "test" TLDs to our IDN whitelist, to allow Firefox users
to participate fully in the test. Once the TLDs are removed from the root at
the end of the test period, we can remove them again."
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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The original proposals were for single characters.

Ahhh, yes. Totally forgot about that. I don't see that working out as well as having نت and كوم.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Ahhh, yes. Totally forgot about that. I don't see that working out as well as having نت and كوم.
I don't think it matters a great deal. Arabic will be a home run for dot com if they can only get IDN.IDN in any shape or form.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Originally Posted by Alphamale
Looks like Mozilla are going to cover up this fiasco..

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397803

"ICANN are starting a test of IDN in the root.
http://icann.org/announcements/annou...-2-19jun07.htm
This involves adding 11 test TLDs to the root, so software can be tested to see
if it works with them.

We should add these 11 "test" TLDs to our IDN whitelist, to allow Firefox users
to participate fully in the test. Once the TLDs are removed from the root at
the end of the test period, we can remove them again."

It's a bit late now. By the time they get a release out and on desktops, the testbed will have been shut down.

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Old 15th October 2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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It's a bit late now. By the time they get a release out and on desktops, the testbed will have been shut down.

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Excellent.

Even more heat!

I just love the arbituary way this decision was handled!
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

I donno may be there is some cultural differences

In egypt we prefer .com over anything else

some people from gulf area may prefer .net as you see with aljazeera.net


but another theory supports arabic .com adoption is that many sites are working with .com.xx as country codes like

.com.eg
.com.sa
.com.kw ......etc
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I donno may be there is some cultural differences

In egypt we prefer .com over anything else

some people from gulf area may prefer .net as you see with aljazeera.net


but another theory supports arabic .com adoption is that many sites are working with .com.xx as country codes like

.com.eg
.com.sa
.com.kw ......etc
There is a definite cultural difference in the Middle East in regards to tld. It gets a little confusing, but I figure in the end it is a win-win situation which makes it worthwhile.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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Excellent.

Even more heat!

I just love the arbituary way this decision was handled!
You've just coined a new word, congrats! Arbitrary leading to obituary :-)

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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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ok, how about the left to right or right to left problem for idn.com. Is this a problem at all?
idn.com(idn) will put an end to this problem as you will write the name easily in one direction.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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The 11 evaluation wikis will remain online until IDNs are fully implemented and the first top-level domain is introduced in the evaluation language.
The evaluation language? Mystery.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

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the first top-level domain is introduced
Bigger mystery.
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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

Perhaps ICANN can put some pressure on Verisign to publish a policy to registrars regarding which types of mixed script registrations are acceptable and which are not.

Isn't that the perfect task for the IDN association?

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Re: Arabic dream has become a reality !!

Just tried the Greek page there ... http://παράδειγμα.δοκιμή on Opera, and the address in the toolbar actually shows as ....

http://παράδειγμα.δοκιμή/Αρχική_σελίδα ( Αρχικη Σελιδα meaning Home Page ).

If Opera can get this working, whats the problem with Firefox and IE giving us the same thing ??

It does look like a step in the right direction.

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