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Old 20th October 2007, 12:49 PM
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Worst case scenerio

Just thinking about the way things may shake out in particular for idn.com holders and what is the worst that might happen. Seems that the answer (which is still not too bad IMO) is being "stuck" with idn.com. Seeing that .com is Verisigns top "brand" and if their dname proposal does not fly, any feelings about how things might end up with .com going heads up against other extensions.
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Re: Worst case scenerio

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Just thinking about the way things may shake out in particular for idn.com holders and what is the worst that might happen. Seems that the answer (which is still not too bad IMO) is being "stuck" with idn.com. Seeing that .com is Verisigns top "brand" and if their dname proposal does not fly, any feelings about how things might end up with .com going heads up against other extensions.
My view entirely unless those names happen to be the Arabic then worse case scenario is pretty dire. As far as Chinese and Japanese are concerned I think most people will actually prefer to use the ASCII version. We know that that Russians don't have a major problem with it right now. Even the Arabs will use it in the event there is no alternative.
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.com should do ok given the traffic from parked names currently, its the other extensions that have the most to gain/lose, IMO.

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Re: Worst case scenerio

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Just thinking about the way things may shake out in particular for idn.com holders and what is the worst that might happen. Seems that the answer (which is still not too bad IMO) is being "stuck" with idn.com. Seeing that .com is Verisigns top "brand" and if their dname proposal does not fly, any feelings about how things might end up with .com going heads up against other extensions.

For chinese, the Icann "idn.idn" will be pretty much useless without idn.com, and will be third class compared to .cn, which everyone is already familiar with.

Without .com endorsement, the chinese idn.idn will be relegated to third class extension status such as ascii .biz or .info vis a vis ascii.com.

In other words, idn.com does NOT need idn.idn, but idn.idn NEEDS idn.com.

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Re: Worst case scenerio

Worst case scenario is Bush nuking Iran just before the USA plunges into a depression, with a flu pandemic occurring just after, followed closely by the ice over Greenland and Antarctica plunging into the ocean.

All bets are off in that case, other than oil dropping in price.
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Re: Worst case scenerio

for Arabic :
if .com won't be aliased to .idn then the whole idn.com (arabic) will worth nothing for Arab.

Arabic is RTL language and .com is LTR tld.
Also it is difficult for Arab internet users to switch language .. it will be easier for Arab to get used to the new .idn (whatever it would be) instead of using .com ..

So our only hope is for ICANN to aliase our idn.com to idn.idn !
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Old 20th October 2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: Worst case scenerio

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if .com won't be aliased to .idn then the whole idn.com (arabic) will worth nothing for Arab.

Arabic is RTL language and .com is LTR tld.
Also it is difficult for Arab internet users to switch language .. it will be easier for Arab to get used to the new .idn (whatever it would be) instead of using .com ..

So our only hope is for ICANN to aliase our idn.com to idn.idn !
Yep. I knew this from the second I first started purchasing Arabic IDNs. Net/Com needs to be aliased some sort of way for our idn.ascii to be idn.idn. Hell breaks lose if they become two separate domains. Time to figure out what to get on those wikis
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Re: Worst case scenerio

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for Arabic :
if .com won't be aliased to .idn then the whole idn.com (arabic) will worth nothing for Arab.

Arabic is RTL language and .com is LTR tld.
Also it is difficult for Arab internet users to switch language .. it will be easier for Arab to get used to the new .idn (whatever it would be) instead of using .com ..

So our only hope is for ICANN to aliase our idn.com to idn.idn !

Type-in traffic only represents about 2% of a domain's total traffic. My arabics are getting quite good levels of search traffic, even now.

Non-aliasing will, however, affect resale values.

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Re: Worst case scenerio

Mike, if idn.com won't be aliased to idn.idn then i assure u that idn.com will hardly worth reg fees in Arab world
sorry about that .. but this is a truth...

So if there is any way that we can do in order to get the aliasing implemented then that will be GREAT !
and we should do it asap before a final decission been made and become a policy ..
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Old 20th October 2007, 11:01 PM
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Re: Worst case scenerio

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Mike, if idn.com won't be aliased to idn.idn then i assure u that idn.com will hardly worth reg fees in Arab world
sorry about that .. but this is a truth...

So if there is any way that we can do in order to get the aliasing implemented then that will be GREAT !
and we should do it asap before a final decission been made and become a policy ..

They won't be worth much from a resale perspective, I agree. However, almost any domain which receives a lot of search traffic is valuable. Arabs don't care how the domain looks when they are clicking search results, otherwise my arabic domains wouldn't get any traffic today. Same goes for Japanese, Chinese, Russian, etc... They all get search traffic today.

Regarding aliasing, ICANN simply doesn't have interest in our business plans. We just have to wait and see how it pans out. This game is between large registries and ICANN. Our voice doesn't count at all in this matter.

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Re: Worst case scenerio

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for Arabic :
if .com won't be aliased to .idn then the whole idn.com (arabic) will worth nothing for Arab.

Arabic is RTL language and .com is LTR tld.
Also it is difficult for Arab internet users to switch language .. it will be easier for Arab to get used to the new .idn (whatever it would be) instead of using .com ..

So our only hope is for ICANN to aliase our idn.com to idn.idn !
Same for Hebrew
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