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Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

Domain names issue arises in the arabic world and arab discovered the value and importance of domain names.

The syrian electronic government withdraw .sy premium names from their previous owners!! . The government said they have no right to register them !!!

اثارة قضية النطاقات في العالم العربي والعرب يكتشفون قيمة واهمية اسماء المواقع

الحكومة السورية تسحب النطاقات القيمة من ملاكها لامتلاكهم النطاقات بغير وجه حق

اقرأ التفاصيل بالكامل علي البلوجر نطاق

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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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Domain names issue arises in the arabic world and arab discovered the value and importance of domain names.

The syrian electronic government withdraw .sy premium names from their previous owners!! . The government said they have no right to register them !!!

اثارة قضية النطاقات في العالم العربي والعرب يكتشفون قيمة واهمية اسماء المواقع

الحكومة السورية تسحب النطاقات القيمة من ملاكها لامتلاكهم النطاقات بغير وجه حق

اقرأ التفاصيل بالكامل علي البلوجر نطاق

http://www.xn--mgb5a8an.com/article27.htm


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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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Domain names issue arises in the arabic world and arab discovered the value and importance of domain names.

The syrian electronic government withdraw .sy premium names from their previous owners!! . The government said they have no right to register them !!!

This is excellent news.

Again, I will remind you why Arabic dot coms are my favorites: A market which reaches natively across ~23 countries!

Hail to the ccTLD nitwits across the Arabic world. Keep up the good work!

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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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This is excellent news.

Again, I will remind you why Arabic dot coms are my favorites: A market which reaches natively across ~23 countries!

Hail to the ccTLD nitwits across the Arabic world. Keep up the good work!

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ccTLDs are the biggest joke in the Middle East. If gTLD doesn't get mapped out to IDN as an alias, IDNs will fail if the ccTLDs try to do it. It'll be hilarious (I talked to some people over the summer who have worked with the Middle Easter ccTLD registries supposedly--IDN nay sayers. One just asked me how IDNs were doing last week!).
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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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I talked to some people over the summer who have worked with the Middle Easter ccTLD registries supposedly--IDN nay sayers. One just asked me how IDNs were doing last week!.

The fact of the matter is that they get search traffic just like any other domain. Do Arabs search using transliterated arabic, or do they search using arabic characters? (Rhetorical question)

People just hate change, then they get old and move out of the way whilst the younger people have adapted.


Interesting notes about resistance to change:

http://changingminds.org/disciplines...nce_change.htm

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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

This isn't even amusing. If you are going to understand the market it is important not to spend too much time in the sun.

Google is just about the only search engine that currently matters.

Nearly all Arabic Web Content is in Arabic and of that nearly 100% will be in Arabic characters.

No search terms other than Arabic in Arabic characters are going to match against Arabic script content, so even if they actually were inclined to use anything else it would not connect. So why would they do that? Take it from me unless they are looking for content on foreign web pages, nearly all search terms will be in Arabic characters and they won't generally be transliterations of English Terms.

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The fact of the matter is that they get search traffic just like any other domain. Do Arabs search using transliterated arabic, or do they search using arabic characters? (Rhetorical question)

People just hate change, then they get old and move out of the way whilst the younger people have adapted.


Interesting notes about resistance to change:

http://changingminds.org/disciplines...nce_change.htm

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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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The fact of the matter is that they get search traffic just like any other domain. Do Arabs search using transliterated arabic, or do they search using arabic characters? (Rhetorical question)

People just hate change, then they get old and move out of the way whilst the younger people have adapted.


Interesting notes about resistance to change:

http://changingminds.org/disciplines...nce_change.htm

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Yep. Things will change. From the whole Arabic article situation last week, 99% of the people b!tching were Arabic webmasters... the people who loved the idea were the actual internet browsers.

Problem is 99% of IDNs have parked pages. I'm sure we all control a majority of the IDNs on the forum. I'm trying my hardest to churn out bull websites just because I know I'd be sick and turned off of IDNs if I just kept seeing parked domains. I was thinking about proposing another IDN swap thread, but that didn't work out that well last time I did it (I think in February). It's better for the market if we make awareness through development and give users a reason to use IDNs.
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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

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Yep. Things will change. From the whole Arabic article situation last week, 99% of the people b!tching were Arabic webmasters... the people who loved the idea were the actual internet browsers.

Exactly. The webmasters resist because they see it as a major threat to their existing domain names. The status quo will shift.

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The concept of entrenchment here is a bit baffling.

We held Arab names for about 18 months before Arabic Keywords were even indexed.

Yes, the Arabic Web existed before than period. Much of it used to be in non-Unicode characters or even Latin Transliterations of Arabic. This was, however, completely blown away with the advent of Unicode, just as ASCII addresses will be completely blown away with advent of IDN. Any other interpretation is just plain wishful thinking.
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The concept of entrenchment here is a bit baffling.

We held Arab names for about 18 months before Arabic Keywords were even indexed.

Yes, the Arabic Web existed before than period. Much of it used to be in non-Unicode characters or even Latin Transliterations of Arabic. This was, however, completely blown away with the advent of Unicode, just as ASCII addresses will be completely blown away with advent of IDN. Any other interpretation is just plain wishful thinking.
Been sitting in front of my computer for the last 5 hours (it's now 5:48AM in LA) doing research on transliterations and such. If anyone thinks IDNs are garbage, please... send them over.
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>The syrian electronic government withdraw .sy premium names from their previous
>owners!! . The government said they have no right to register them !!!

That's pretty ball.sy
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Re: Domain names issue arises in the arabic world

I understand the risk on registering domains in the arabic ccTLD i have some top premium idn in the arabic ccTLD i hate those news is more scary than everrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :p

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