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Old 12th November 2007, 07:35 PM
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fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

http://www.sevenmile.com/2007-11/idn...s-your-friend/

please read yourself, but highlight is the final, conclusive para:

I understand and accept that lots of IDN millionairs will be minted by then.. So if you speak the language, go gettem folks.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

The game is over now. Anything that was left will be gone by tomorrow.

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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

The CNN article still assumes that IDNs are only IDN.IDN and that this 'may' occur.

Do enough domainers read FSs site and are they willing to make the leap? I have found that many domainers are 'IDN-curious' but are unwilling to make the leap. This includes Arabic and Indian domainers.

BTW, the FS article is in English.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

Great Job Bill for getting that over to Frank !
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

You are neglecting the Guru factor. These guys won't permit themselves to invest in anything unless it is blessed by one of the Great Savant. It avoid all the unpleasantness of having to think for themselves and taking responsibility for their own actions. They find self actualisation within the herd, or more accurately flock.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

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The game is over now. Anything that was left will be gone by tomorrow.

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I've been saying game over for a while now, but I always go back and pick up scraps. Things are getting way to tight lately... and with traffic/revenue increasing, I just can't help myself.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

well,

things might be clearer for old hands and newbies alike now...

if FS is buying IDN's, it is best for him to say he is not, so he does not have to over pay.....

and ...

if FS is not buying IDN's it is best to say that he is not, so people will not ping him to buy their IDN's or portfolios from them....which does not preclude him doing one off's now and again......or via trusted intermidiaries etc....

Additionally, he seems to be saying that the future FS's of IDN's in each nation or language are going to be some one else, and not him.

Many posts here and elsewhere ........implied that FS or some one similar would be the FS of IDN's.
well .......today......a clear signal to hold and re-reg as you are likely to hear .

He is a smart guy and a very rich guy......
I think he has looked to buy language matches for many of of the best of his current holdings...
and found them to be gone, gone, gone...

So the A-listers and Geo -specialists will have get into the IDN mosh pit and work/study/ test just like the rest of us.....

The water is warm in the Caymans....and
soon the water will be warm in the moderate climes of the Pacific too....(grin)
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

So.... Because FS says he will not go IDN, does this mean that the flock will not go IDN? Yes, he clearly states that others will have to go where he dares not tread. What does this really mean?

My traffic is still doing well. However, nothing really new. The same high-traffic names are getting better traffic. The same mid-traffic names are doing better. Low-traffic names are still low traffic, but a little better. Nothing out of the ordinary.

If the 'flood' of new regs occurs, you would expect to see a lot of speculator traffic, right?
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

Yes, I think you would. I don't think I ever generated any personally, but that seems to be the way of things. When there is a surge of interest the traffic goes up and particularly that from North America that really has very little IDN traffic, at least in the languages I am invested in.


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So.... Because FS says he will not go IDN, does this mean that the flock will not go IDN? Yes, he clearly states that others will have to go where he dares not tread. What does this really mean?

My traffic is still doing well. However, nothing really new. The same high-traffic names are getting better traffic. The same mid-traffic names are doing better. Low-traffic names are still low traffic, but a little better. Nothing out of the ordinary.

If the 'flood' of new regs occurs, you would expect to see a lot of speculator traffic, right?
I think if you read his thread, he is still working on the presumption that you need to learn the languages to make this work. The great realisation I made right at the start is you absolutely don't need to understand very much, which is why we have been so successful and are so widely spread.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

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Great Job Bill for getting that over to Frank !
Thanks Genius. No doubt credible sources like CNN, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal etc. really get people to
sit up and take notice. From day one I have looked at this whole IDN thing strictly from a common sense and
business standpoint. It was just another adaptation of the business addage "find the greatest need and fill it".

I was also lucky enough to have work internationally and realized "my own" limitations in not being able to read
signage, menus, and even do the basic things like speak to employees. Even tougher when I lived in Greece I could
not even recognize most of the alphabet. So it was easy to reverse things and see the world as others do that don't
read or write English. From there, IDNs were pretty much a no brainer once you figured out all that the system was
in place and all that was missing was the (IE7) engine!
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

Yes, thank you, Bill, for your good work!

RD, I receive approximately 3 or 4 N American views per day, a fraction of 1% of my total uniques. Unless, of course, a bot skids across my IDNs. I would expect to see a rise in speculator traffic once they become a 'hot item' because that is generally the case. Until I start to see that, I will assume that most domainers, like FS, will leave it to the bold and daring.

In the mean time, I am happy to see the steady traffic that was absent two years ago.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

No exactly a ringing endorsement, but that post may turn some heads.

I do suspect though that many lured to IDNs by that post will search for 'business', 'travel', and 'sex' in multiple languages and abruptly quit when they realize those are taken.

Real traffic is what will generate the value here.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

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I think if you read his thread, he is still working on the presumption that you need to learn the languages to make this work. The great realisation I made right at the start is you absolutely don't need to understand very much, which is why we have been so successful and are so widely spread.

What he basically is saying is that he will start buying (chinese) idns 10 years after chinese language becomes a mandatory subject in his target market countries. In other words...

I think he is really just trying to say, in his nice way, is that IDNs will probably make some people rich, but he's just not going to be bothered with them because he views english as becoming stronger and more global day by day.

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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

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I think if you read his thread, he is still working on the presumption that you need to learn the languages to make this work. The great realisation I made right at the start is you absolutely don't need to understand very much, which is why we have been so successful and are so widely spread.
I was just asked on another board what languages do i speak.

My response was , Wikipedish & Parkinglish !

and a intensive study in Outsoursinglish
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

I agree, Fab. Traffic is the key. But, by then, it will be too late for the aftermarket (for me).

I have come to the conclusion that I will never offer up my high traffic names for sale. And I would have to be offered a lot to sell them. The darn things pay for themselves and other IDNs already.... Why would I sell them now, after all this? I can't imagine selling them for what I think they are worth, even in a few years.

Look at YOUR best domain name. It may have been a surprise that it became your best earner. Many of mine were surprising. In today's market, you know you wouldn't sell them, right? After all you have been through, would you really sell that domain for x,xxx or even low xx,xxx in 2010? It will take some time for prices to get to the six or seven figure mark. If you auctioned that domain off today with no reserve, how much would you really get?

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What he basically is saying is that he will start buying (chinese) idns 10 years after chinese language becomes a mandatory subject in his target market countries. In other words...

I think he is really just trying to say, in his nice way, is that IDNs will probably make some people rich, but he's just not going to be bothered with them because he views english as becoming stronger and more global day by day.

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Yes, and he is wrong. In the 18th Century French was the most important language, and probably before that Spanish. If the German's had won World War II, I probably wouldn't be speaking English at all. Same if Russia had won the Cold War. Today, it is different, at least I hope it is. It is now more about Economic might. That is a battle that is going to go against the English speaking nations, and I am not including India in that group either. We have perhaps already passed the high water mark for the English Language.
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Yes, thank you, Bill, for your good work!
Gotta give some credit to Michael...aka 261275 who had emailed me the article. I just posted it out to a few blogs.
CNN is credible, and a big gun in news these days and revolutionized international on the spot broadcasting. Getting
stories in this type of media gets it out to a huge audience. I remember when CNN was a start up and the competition
mockingly called them "Chicken Noodle Network". :p Maybe a parallel to those who have stayed the course with IDNs...

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They find self actualisation within the herd, or more accurately flock.
I think they call them... sheeple.

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Gotta give some credit to Michael...aka 261275 who had emailed me the article.
Thanks, Michael!
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So, should I buy these IDN thingies or not.
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Re: fs advises people to invest in IDNs !!

The CNN article also got put up at this blog. Sahar has bit of a positive thinker on IDNs, but his comments about
potential IDN traffic never reaching levels of ascii show me he hasn't done much homework on the internet penetration
and growth factors for Japan, China etc. Still, I give him credit for "getting it" a good bit before his peers.

http://www.conceptualist.com/
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