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View Poll Results: How much would you pay for a full-fledged parking statistics service?
$5 per month 3 13.04%
$10 per month 2 8.70%
$15 per month 0 0%
Nice idea, but I wouldn't pay a cent for it. 16 69.57%
This idea sucks! 2 8.70%
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How would you like a transparent stats service for parked domains?

Are you fed up with Namedrive's lack of detail and poor reporting system? Are you fed up with Google Analytics requirements to create domain profiles and inability to do global portfolio reporting?

How about a system where you can get reports which are nearly identical to Google Analytics for every one of your parked domains? How about a system where you can actually extract your data and get statistical reports across all of your domains?

Now what if I told you that every bit of this is handled without any work on your side, that all you need to do is a single mass-operation to change the nameservers for your domains? Would you be willing to pay for such a service?

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Re: How would you like a transparent stats service for parked domains?

The reporting is very much needed and is a great idea. I might pay something less than $5. If every month was like this month in parking - I would pay $5. Also who provides the parking?
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Re: How would you like a transparent stats service for parked domains?

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The reporting is very much needed and is a great idea. I might pay something less than $5. If every month was like this month in parking - I would pay $5. Also who provides the parking?
The parking is wherever you choose. Let me give you an example of a portfolio which could be statistically managed under this system:


5 domains parked at sedo
200 domains parked at nd
20 domains parked at dopa
15 minisite domains hosted anywhere


And you could get the same stats for every one of them, from a centralized reporting tool. The goal of the reporting is to provide you with the knowledge you need to make decisions. That knowledge is easily very valuable if you have a mid-sized to large portfolio. It gives you the knowledge of how your network is operating. As a network operator, without this knowledge, you are operating blindfolded and with assumptions.

But as you can see via the poll that most people are tightwads. It would require moderate effort for me to build this system, so I'd need to ensure enough people were interested first.

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Re: How would you like a transparent stats service for parked domains?

This is a good idea. You should make the service free.

Because you got the names to your name servers, you could easily set up your own parking service once you got hold of enough users.

"Tick this to switch to Jacksonmparking".
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This is a good idea. You should make the service free.

Because you got the names to your name servers, you could easily set up your own parking service once you got hold of enough users.

"Tick this to switch to Jacksonmparking".

Google won't even consider you for an adsense domains feed if you have less than 20k domains.

How many domains could you add toward that number?

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Google won't even consider you for an adsense domains feed if you have less than 20k domains.

How many domains could you add toward that number?

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I think they would be flexible on that number, if you can demonstrate very high levels of traffic.
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I think they would be flexible on that number, if you can demonstrate very high levels of traffic.

I think if I could assemble about 6000 domains which all average 20 uniques per day, then we'd be in business.

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I think if I could assemble about 6000 domains which all average 20 uniques per day, then we'd be in business.

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In any event, once the traffic kicks in, going out and acquiring 20K Mediocre names is not going to be a major problem!
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I'd pay nothing -- I can do this myself, tailored to my needs, just takes a couple more minutes.
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I'd pay nothing -- I can do this myself, tailored to my needs, just takes a couple more minutes.

What just takes a couple more minutes?

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I'd pay nothing -- I can do this myself, tailored to my needs, just takes a couple more minutes.
Minutes?? Can you tell us more.

MJ- I would be interested in participating if this gets off the ground.
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Minutes??
I would be interested too.
I think that is as in "One Born every"
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I'd pay nothing -- I can do this myself, tailored to my needs, just takes a couple more minutes.
The only thing I can do in a couple of minutes is take a piss :p
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Minutes?? Can you tell us more.

MJ- I would be interested in participating if this gets off the ground.

Minutes, indeed. I am talking about building an enterprise-grade reporting system which can transparently gather and report statistics for a disparately monetized portfolio.

Thanks, Bill. I will mark you down.

Who was the other person that voted positively? Please identify yourself.

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One place to coordinate all parking reports would be nice, especially given this months parking $$. Eventually a MJ parking service dedicated to IDNs


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This is not only a good idea, but a GREAT idea. There is huge potential in pooling all of our IDNs as a "group" even
if that is just for buying power, or to negotiate transparancy and fair rev-share with various parking companies.
Not sure how many people are "dedicated" at ie. Namedrive or Sedo to the IDN department, but how things work
and payouts calculated from google, to yahoo, to parking companies is certainly kept a secret.
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This is not only a good idea, but a GREAT idea. There is huge potential in pooling all of our IDNs as a "group" even
if that is just for buying power, or to negotiate transparancy and fair rev-share with various parking companies.
Not sure how many people are "dedicated" at ie. Namedrive or Sedo to the IDN department, but how things work
and payouts calculated from google, to yahoo, to parking companies is certainly kept a secret.

Well, it only stands to reason that if google pays me e.g. 0.04 - 0.07 usd per click for search traffic to arabic websites/minisites, and nd only pays me 0.01 usd for the same, then someone is taking a disproportionately fat profit.

According to public financial reports, Google revealed that they pay publishers around 88% of what they charge a publisher for a click.

For parked domains, I think Google actually pays higher (and charges the advertiser higher per click) for visits without referrals than it does for search traffic. For search traffic which results in clicks to parked domains, I think the payout is the same as it would be for search traffic which results in clicks to websites/minisites - however, the parking company takes their cut.

I believe that most people's clicks are currently resulting from search traffic to parked domains. I estimate that parking companies are paying us around 25-50% of what they receive from Google, e.g. what would be a 0.04 usd click on a search to a minisite would be a 0.01 usd click on a search to a parked page.

For type-in traffic, which is still very small for most of us, I would estimate that the parking companies are paying out about 10% of what they receive from Google.

I think the real problem with transparency is that Google prohibits parking companies from disclosing any information at all. Of course, this actually works in the favor of the parking companies as they can take an arbitrary cut.

Anybody interested in proceeding with anything, please PM me or just mail me directly.

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Re: How would you like a transparent stats service for parked domains?

I think it's not so simple as 25-50%.

Take ND for example, they probably pay out a big margin for clicks less than 5 cents, but over 15 cents, they may take a bigger cut. My guess over after comparing the stats.
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I think it's not so simple as 25-50%.

Take ND for example, they probably pay out a big margin for clicks less than 5 cents, but over 15 cents, they may take a bigger cut. My guess over after comparing the stats.

Yes, I certainly would not discount that they would be using a progressive scale algorithm.

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Yes, I certainly would not discount that they would be using a progressive scale algorithm.

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That is the tricky part, if google pays you $4 for that click, ND might take 50% out, leaving you $2, but for most part, ppc maybe like 10 cents, and ND takes only 2 cents. So, you'll never know whether ND pays less unless you do a side by side comparison with 2 month's worth of data.

Also, i've seen cases whereby ND pays more than Google - i suspect depends on the keyword used, some keywords pay twice or triple of others.
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