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Old 16th March 2006, 05:26 AM
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Appraise my first IDN portfolio

I just brought my first couple of IDN and I like to sell them so that I can fund more domain purchase.

These are countries and cities in chinese. The cities are either capital, tourist destination, well known or has an airport.

Is this portfolio worth anything at all? How should I price it so that it is attractive to buyer and me?

Should they be valued individually or as a portfolio?

Thanks for advice.

Country:
xn--ihqzd.com (不丹.com) Bhutan
xn--ujqx75o.com (也门.com) Yeman
xn--ehr89h1xgh0i.com (巴勒斯坦.com) Palestine
xn--8y0al16awvd.com (阿联酋.com) UAE
xn--yms49fex9b.com (塞舌尔.com) Seychelles
xn--y6qu6m3zpnh0a.com (梵蒂冈城.com) Vatican City
xn--tst35iht1d.com (巴拿马.com) Panama
xn--hev55o.com (斐济.com) Fiji
xn--yfr76rzmg.com (孟加拉.com) Bangladesh

City:
xn--hlrr3qe8f.com (安卡拉.com) Ankara, capital of Turkey
xn--b8q927brgurrm.com (耶路撒冷.com) Jeruselum, capital of Israel
xn--yfro81a0yl7h7a.com (加德满都.com) Kathmandu, capital of Nepal
xn--znq00d.com (仰光.com) Yangon, capital of Myanmar
xn--8ftu3t.com (尼斯.com) Nice, tourist spot in France
xn--uis533b.com (槟城.com) Penang, a tourist spot in Malaysia
xn--xys583bo9w.com (汉诺威.com) Hannover, a major city in Germany
xn--dfvz62a.com (珀斯.com) Perth, a major city in Australia
xn--w9qu66az2d.com (凯恩斯.com) Cairns, a major city in Australia
xn--3etu3tjq9a.com (达尔文.com) Darwin, a major city in Australia
xn--nyw688asf.com (维洛纳.com) Verona, a tourist spot in Italy
xn--qoq51d38isvp.com (伊斯兰堡.com) Islamabad, capital of Pakistan
xn--qvr73h.com (多哈.com) Doha, capital of Qatar
xn--bjq79ewtpqme.com (乌兰巴托.com) Ulaanbaatar, capital of Mongolia
xn--hlrr81l.com (达卡.com) Dhaka, capital of Bangladesh
xn--yit10z3jv.com (苏梅岛.com) Koh Samui, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--yitr02da.com (皮皮岛.com) Phi Phi Island, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--tnys8m.com (甲米.com) Krabi, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--c5w433e.com (清迈.com) Chiangmai, tourist spot in Thailand
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Old 16th March 2006, 05:45 AM
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Re: Appraise my first IDN portfolio

Ok, you have to start off by asking yourself: "How many Chinese speakers visit each of the places regularly?" I don't have the answer, but I'm guessing very very few would go to Yemen, Palestine, Panama, Hannover, Islamabad etc.

After all, your audience is 100% limited to Chinese speakers, so it doesn't matter if the place has 5 million residents, 100 million population or 2 million tourists a year if they're NOT Chinese speakers.

I don't actually know the answer to the question above, but I know that without the answer it's almost impossible to value these types of domain meaningfully. At the very least, a sense of whether the place is "very strongly of interest to Chinese", "strongly of interest", "of interest", "not really of interest" or "not remotely of interest" is a bare minimum starting point.
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Re: Appraise my first IDN portfolio

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Originally Posted by 59domain
I just brought my first couple of IDN and I like to sell them so that I can fund more domain purchase.

These are countries and cities in chinese. The cities are either capital, tourist destination, well known or has an airport.

Is this portfolio worth anything at all? How should I price it so that it is attractive to buyer and me?

Should they be valued individually or as a portfolio?

Thanks for advice.

Country:
xn--ihqzd.com (不丹.com) Bhutan
xn--ujqx75o.com (也门.com) Yeman
xn--ehr89h1xgh0i.com (巴勒斯坦.com) Palestine
xn--8y0al16awvd.com (阿联酋.com) UAE
xn--yms49fex9b.com (塞舌尔.com) Seychelles
xn--y6qu6m3zpnh0a.com (梵蒂冈城.com) Vatican City
xn--tst35iht1d.com (巴拿马.com) Panama
xn--hev55o.com (斐济.com) Fiji
xn--yfr76rzmg.com (孟加拉.com) Bangladesh

City:
xn--hlrr3qe8f.com (安卡拉.com) Ankara, capital of Turkey
xn--b8q927brgurrm.com (耶路撒冷.com) Jeruselum, capital of Israel
xn--yfro81a0yl7h7a.com (加德满都.com) Kathmandu, capital of Nepal
xn--znq00d.com (仰光.com) Yangon, capital of Myanmar
xn--8ftu3t.com (尼斯.com) Nice, tourist spot in France
xn--uis533b.com (槟城.com) Penang, a tourist spot in Malaysia
xn--xys583bo9w.com (汉诺威.com) Hannover, a major city in Germany
xn--dfvz62a.com (珀斯.com) Perth, a major city in Australia
xn--w9qu66az2d.com (凯恩斯.com) Cairns, a major city in Australia
xn--3etu3tjq9a.com (达尔文.com) Darwin, a major city in Australia
xn--nyw688asf.com (维洛纳.com) Verona, a tourist spot in Italy
xn--qoq51d38isvp.com (伊斯兰堡.com) Islamabad, capital of Pakistan
xn--qvr73h.com (多哈.com) Doha, capital of Qatar
xn--bjq79ewtpqme.com (乌兰巴托.com) Ulaanbaatar, capital of Mongolia
xn--hlrr81l.com (达卡.com) Dhaka, capital of Bangladesh
xn--yit10z3jv.com (苏梅岛.com) Koh Samui, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--yitr02da.com (皮皮岛.com) Phi Phi Island, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--tnys8m.com (甲米.com) Krabi, tourist spot in Thailand
xn--c5w433e.com (清迈.com) Chiangmai, tourist spot in Thailand
You have done an excellent job. All the names are correct Simplified Chinese.

Should sell them individually. (巴拿马.com) Panama is a very good one.
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Re: Appraise my first IDN portfolio

What Edwin is trying to say is
Welcome to the site it would be helpful for those not familiar with Chinese tourist habits if you could imply if some of the places are HOTSpots for Chinese tourist.

I own Boston.jp which I know is place many well to do Japanese people send their kids to go to school. Even the Princess of Japan did an exchange program in Boston..
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Re: Appraise my first IDN portfolio

Thanks for the input.

I actually researched from some chinese travel sites like travel.163.com.
Chinese travelling overseas is a growing trend. For many asian countries, chinese had replace japanese as the largest revenue generating group. So travel is certainly an area that I'm focusing on to build my portfolio.

For the middle eastern countries there might be marginal interest in terms of trade and business.

My thinking for country domain is that any country should worth more than reg. value at least. If course finding the right buyer is another matter.
I'm still learning about the domain name business, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Appraise my first IDN portfolio

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Thanks for the input.

I actually researched from some chinese travel sites like travel.163.com.
Chinese travelling overseas is a growing trend. For many asian countries, chinese had replace japanese as the largest revenue generating group. So travel is certainly an area that I'm focusing on to build my portfolio.

For the middle eastern countries there might be marginal interest in terms of trade and business.

My thinking for country domain is that any country should worth more than reg. value at least. If course finding the right buyer is another matter.
I'm still learning about the domain name business, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, you're right they are worth more than reg fees. If you put them up for sale on DNF for $10 each, they would be gone in 2 days. Time is expensive for a lot of domain players, and the time just to find a domain to register is at least $50 for many people, more than the reg fee itself. There are junk idns sold on domain forum for many times more than that, since you are chinese, you would be able to spot them easily.

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Time is expensive for a lot of domain players, and the time just to find a domain to register is at least $50 for many people. There are junks sold on this forum for many times more than that, since you are chinese, you would be able to spot them easily.
Interesting point, I will keep that in mind.
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Interesting point, I will keep that in mind.

You can visit dnf to check what the taiwanese are doing, they are busily registering .nets (sometimes .com) still available and immediately selling for $30 to $100 each (there are some very good ones). A few hundred in RMB is quite substantial money for little work.
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