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Old 21st December 2007, 06:20 PM
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So which ccTLDs to invest in?

Following Touchrings concept we can analyse all ccTLDs it would seem:


Dot DE
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.de%2...ate=all&sort=0
Super Star


Dot FR
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.fr%2...ate=all&sort=0
Star

Dot co.uk
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.co.u...ate=all&sort=0
Buy

Dot es
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.es%2...ate=all&sort=0
Buy

Dot se
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.se%2...ate=all&sort=0
Super Star

Dot cz
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.cz%2...ate=all&sort=0
Mega Star

Dot ru
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.ru%2...ate=all&sort=0
Mega Star

Dot in
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.in%2...ate=all&sort=0
Complete Dog

Dot cn
http://www.google.com/trends?q=.cn%2...ate=all&sort=0
Very Poor

Dot Jp
http://www.google.com/trends?q=%2Cco...ate=all&sort=0
No traffic at all to speak of from Japan.

Same with Korea, no data.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

In Japan Yahoo has over 90% of the search market so using trends would not reflect the amount of people searching for .jp correct ?
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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In Japan Yahoo has over 90% of the search market so using trends would not reflect the amount of people searching for .jp correct ?
Sorry, see what you mean!

This could be analysed another way, if you actually got data from the registeries, like the stuff we saw for Runet on browsers.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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Sorry, see what you mean!

This could be analysed another way, if you actually got data from the registeries, like the stuff we saw for Runet on browsers.
sorry but your logic is flawed.... alot of members .jp names are getting traffic
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

There is a possible flaw in the analysis because a user who is pre-disposed to use Google for search (which is where the data comes from) may also be more likely to use .com rather than their local ccTLD.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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sorry but your logic is flawed.... alot of members .jp names are getting traffic
I am not getting the impression that many including Rhys are getting natural type in as opposed to search generated.

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There is a possible flaw in the analysis because a user who is pre-disposed to use Google for search (which is where the data comes from) may also be more likely to use .com rather than their local ccTLD.
Acknowledged. The model does seem to breakdown for Japanese and Korean, but there is also little firm evidence that is wrong. All opinions welcome on this.

I am very encouraged by Russian. At the moment dot com is a low percentage of total traffic. I think that will rise with IDN simply because it has taken a long time for the Russian to get their act together.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

Even average names in .jp do well , (not that they don't in dot com) But a google trends report would not encourage me where to invest as far as ext. . See stats below from a random name from my .jp folio for the month of December so far. Last time i checked the ovt on this term it was approx. 20k. Ofcourse most of the traffic is coming from se's but follow the money. Most of the parked money is coming from se's as well , assuming its type in's is just assuming.

Totals Impressions 1,517 Clicks 365 Earnings $31.34

Averages 89 21 24.06% $20.66 $1.84


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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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Even average names in .jp do well , (not that they don't in dot com) But a google trends report would not encourage me where to invest as for as ext. . See stats below from a random name from my .jp folio for the month of December so far. Last time i checked the ovt on this term in was approx. 20k. Ofcourse most of the traffic is coming from se's but follow the money. Most of the parked money is coming from se's as well , assuming its type in's is just assuming.

Totals Impressions 1,517 Clicks 365 Earnings $31.34

Averages 89 21 24.06% $20.66 $1.84


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RD when you know that you failed by not doing something you love to point out the flaws showing your jealousy.....

I know you missed the .jp boat... Don't pull up irrelevant stats to bury our investments.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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RD when you know that you failed by not doing something you love to point out the flaws showing your jealousy.....

I know you missed the .jp boat... Don't pull up irrelevant stats to bury our investments.
If this really is a typical performance from your .JP portfolios, why the hell would you care what I think?
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

If this really is a typical performance from your .com portfolios, why the hell would you care what Rick says...
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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If this really is a typical performance from your .com portfolios, why the hell would you care what Rick says...
I don't believe I made such a claim, but Genius did and you backed it up!

I have taken a line in recent months that I don't really have an issue with Rick. I have found his behaviour a little difficult to understand, but accept that the explanation is that we are both starting from different departure points. I have publicly accepted his account of the flowers.mobi episode. I don't respect it greatly as an investment decision but I accept that what he done as he described on his own blog. As far as I am concerned the issue is closed.
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I don't believe I made such a claim .
you are a comedian ;-)

You have made many comments when ascii ppl have denounced IDNs and have backed up your claims with names from your own portfolio.
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you are a comedian ;-)

You have made many comments when ascii ppl have denounced IDNs and have backed up your claims with names from your own portfolio.
Bollocks, I have never suggested that a name taken at random from my portfolio was making over $300 per year. If that were true, I would be bringing in over a million dollars a year. If that were so do you really think I would be wasting my time here being lambasted by the likes of you?
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

Just to clarify i never said this domain was making over $300 a year. I simply stated what the stats for this month are as of the 21st. But after looking at my stats for it starting Jan. 22 2007 it has earned $234.47 so far.

Totals 14,136 2,919 $234.47
Averages 65 13 20.65% $16.59 $1.08

I say that to say names do fluctuate , just because it made a good bit this month it may only make reg fee next month ect.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

I didn't have a problem with the statistics of the domain. Where I do have a problem is the taken at random bit. As a mathematician I know that at random is an almost meaningless statement, but lets just say that the result is highly convenient.


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Just to clarify i never said this domain was making over $300 a year. I simply stated what the stats for this month are as of the 21st. But after looking at my stats for it starting Jan. 22 2007 it has earned $234.47 so far.

Totals 14,136 2,919 $234.47
Averages 65 13 20.65% $16.59 $1.08

I say that to say names do fluctuate , just because it made a good bit this month it may only make reg fee next month ect.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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I didn't have a problem with the statistics of the domain. Where I do have a problem is the taken at random bit. As a mathematician I know that at random is an almost meaningless statement, but lets just say that the result is highly convenient.
The domain was picked at random from yesterdays top 5 earners. To be more specific it was actually my #4 earner of the day yesterday. I choose to say at random because more or less it was , i felt as though i didn't pick my best performer nor my best name.
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The domain was picked at random from yesterdays top earners. To be more specific it was actually my #4 earner of the day yesterday. I choose to say at random because more or less it was , i felt as though i didn't pick my best performer nor my best name.
My point exactly! Thankyou.
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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My point exactly! Thankyou.
NP , and my point is .jp's get just a much traffic as .com like initially said.
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NP , and my point is .jp's get just a much traffic as .com like initially said.
As these are developed site rather than parking that is something of a moot point.

We all know that traffic revenues from developed sites is often in inverse proportion to the quality of the Keyword which is why top portfolio holders have made no real progress with development, whilst those with two word combos in dodgy extension have made hay!
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Re: So which ccTLDs to invest in?

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As these are developed site rather than parking that is something of a moot point.

We all know that traffic revenues from developed sites is often in inverse proportion to the quality of the Keyword which is why top portfolio holders have made no real progress with development, whilst those with two word combos in dodgy extension have made hay!


Are you calling .jp a dodgy ext. ?

As far a speaking for portfolio holders its usually better to speak for oneself.
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