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Old 25th December 2007, 11:04 AM
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=ja...E7%B4%A2&meta=

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Google/translate of first 3 links.
Announcement for Russian idn.idn

National Cyrillic domain. Russia will otkryt25.12.2007, Moscow 08:56:53 National Cyrillic domain. Russia will be opened in 2008, Market participants believe that the domain will be drawn among users, and can eventually overtake zone. Ru on the number of registrations. ...
mastertalk.ru/topic45824.html? view = getnewpost-4时间前-関連ページ

Cyrillic domain. "Russia" will appear in the Network in 2008:: The National Society ... Cyrillic domain. "Russia" will be opened on the Internet in the year 2008. That said Alexei Lesnikov Ru-Center director. Sites in this zone will be written in Russian. Now ...
top.rbc.ru/society/25/12/2007/131437.

RBC. Tape news. PDA- versiyaNatsionalny Cyrillic domain. Russia will be opened in 2008, Market participants believe that the domain will be drawn among users, and can eventually overtake zone. Ru on the number of registrations. According kiberskvotterov, the new zone is created ...
pda.rbc.ru/newsline/20071225085653.shtml-4时间前-関連ページ
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Latest update is that there is unrest in Kiev and Krakov due to large number of Russians crossing the boarders in search of Picks and Shovels, causing desperate local shortages!
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Latest update is that there is unrest in Kiev and Krakov due to large number of Russians crossing the boarders in search of Picks and Shovels, causing desperate local shortages!
This will be all be blamed on the Americans no doubt. Til they find out the Brits are holding the majority of their top names
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More from the blogs:

http://live.cnews.ru/forum/index.php...pic=39080&st=0
http://translate.google.com/translat...hl=en&ie=UTF-8
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*Grins*

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"домен РФ" Google Results 46,800

There must be a few Russians at least that are interested in this story!
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"домен РФ" Google Results 46,800

There must be a few Russians at least that are interested in this story!
I realise that this is an old post, just wanted to mention that .РФ sounds a bit official in Russian - it's not as good as .ru. Of course idn.РФ is better than ascii.ru but IMHO idn.com is better than both of them :-)
.ru - you use ascii for russian - translit which sometimes is terrible.
.РФ - is like .US :-) As I know .us is not very popular domain ...

apart from these all Russian domains (.ru, .su) are very expensive - about $30 for 1 year registration, I'm afraid it will be the case for .РФ too :-(

so idn.com looks better (and cheaper) alternative :-)
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I realise that this is an old post,
Not at all, this thread started 12-25-07.
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50,300 for "домен РФ"

54,800 for "домен РФ"

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As top generics will be auctioned, .РФ is going to prove incredibly expensive!

As a RussianIDN.com owner, I am a big fan of .РФ.


Welcome Xpresto. Yes, there is only one Rubber Duck!

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I realise that this is an old post, just wanted to mention that .РФ sounds a bit official in Russian - it's not as good as .ru. Of course idn.РФ is better than ascii.ru but IMHO idn.com is better than both of them :-)
.ru - you use ascii for russian - translit which sometimes is terrible.
.РФ - is like .US :-) As I know .us is not very popular domain ...

apart from these all Russian domains (.ru, .su) are very expensive - about $30 for 1 year registration, I'm afraid it will be the case for .РФ too :-(

so idn.com looks better (and cheaper) alternative :-)
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Not at all, this thread started 12-25-07.
Welcome to the forum xpresto, where are you from?
Thanks, bwhhisc.
I'm from California, but I can speak Russian - it's my native language. That's why I'm interested in Cyrillic (Russian) IDNs. I've got a number of Russian idn.com but I'm not sure I wanna spend money on .РФ - there will definitely be some some very good domains like кремль.рф (kremlin) or министр.рф (minister) but what about цветы.рф (flowers) - it sounds too official for flowers (imho).
Although it might sound this way just because this tld is new and every time I hear it I spell it as "Российская Федерация" (Russian Federation) which is definitely very official wording. I understand that this personal perception can change over time as soon as .РФ becomes just one more tld. But still - .com is a gold standard. Do you know that almost every ascii.com for any Russian transliterated word has been already bought? For example - tarakan.com which is transliterated russian word таракан (cockroach) etc.
So what we have actually is multiple domains in use - translit.ru, translit.com/.net..., translit.su, idn.com/.net, and now we are going to get idn.рф
Do you think guys that this multiple tlds undermine value of any single tld for Russian language - there are simply too many of them :-) ?

Rubber Duck - what do you think about this?
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And I forgot to mention another 2 Russian tlds:
.py (which is actually Paraguay's cctld but some russians use it as it visually looks like russian .ру (.ru))
.ком/.нет - (.com/.net translated to Russian) - they actually use alternative dns root and promoted by webnames.ru.
So the list is:

1-translit.com/.net...
2-translit.su
3-translit.ru
4-translit.py
5-idn.ком/.нет
6-idn.com
7-idn.рф

May be I forgot something ?
Yes! There is a class of domains which use visual similar Latin characters to represent Russian words - this is not a translit. For example:
myxa.com (using Latin characters) looks like
муха.com (using Cyrillic) (this russian word means "fly")
and in translit it would be "muha"
But this is very limited class of domains since their alphabet includes only some latin characters.
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Russia is capable of sustaining four or five TLDs. RU will gradually waste away. Both .РФ and dot Com will be widely used. Both will be valuable, but one will be more valuable that the other. Too early to say how it will pan out.

1-translit.com/.net... - will fall into disuse
2-translit.su - worthless
3-translit.ru - will fall into disuse
4-translit.py - will fall into disuse
5-idn.ком/.нет - Worthless. No alternative DNS is going to be worth anything!
6-idn.com - Solid Gold
7-idn.рф - Gold Dust

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Thanks, bwhhisc.
I'm from California, but I can speak Russian - it's my native language. That's why I'm interested in Cyrillic (Russian) IDNs. I've got a number of Russian idn.com but I'm not sure I wanna spend money on .РФ - there will definitely be some some very good domains like кремль.рф (kremlin) or министр.рф (minister) but what about цветы.рф (flowers) - it sounds too official for flowers (imho).
Although it might sound this way just because this tld is new and every time I hear it I spell it as "Российская Федерация" (Russian Federation) which is definitely very official wording. I understand that this personal perception can change over time as soon as .РФ becomes just one more tld. But still - .com is a gold standard. Do you know that almost every ascii.com for any Russian transliterated word has been already bought? For example - tarakan.com which is transliterated russian word таракан (cockroach) etc.
So what we have actually is multiple domains in use - translit.ru, translit.com/.net..., translit.su, idn.com/.net, and now we are going to get idn.рф
Do you think guys that this multiple tlds undermine value of any single tld for Russian language - there are simply too many of them :-) ?

Rubber Duck - what do you think about this?
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1-translit.com/.net... - will fall into disuse
2-translit.su - worthless
3-translit.ru - will fall into disuse
4-translit.py - will fall into disuse
5-idn.ком/.нет - Worthless. No alternative DNS is going to be worth anything!
6-idn.com - Solid Gold
7-idn.рф - Gold Dust
Thanks for sharing, Rubber Duck.
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ком/.нет may help the true aliased idn.com & idn.net gain momentum. Who knows?

I get surprising amounts of traffic to Russian idn.net, so I am not counting that one out.
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...Too early to say how it will pan out.

6-idn.com - Solid Gold
7-idn.рф - Gold Dust
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Well one exists, the other is just postulated.

Both will be very solid investments.

I think it is impossible to predict which would be worth more.

But you will be luck to get a few if any good dot RF. And perhaps be even luckier to hang on to them!
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I'll stick with .com

Even idn.net will be better than idn.рф imo.
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