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Old 12-24-2007, 08:44 PM
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Exclamation 收.net "buy" Auction

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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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收.net xn--wbv.net "buy" or "purchase" Simplified Chinese
Which dictionary did you use? What is your intention?
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

MDBG.com Chinese dictionary translates:

收 (shou1) to receive / to accept / to collect /
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:41 PM
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

Hate to mess up a sales thread, but this just didn't look right. I checked as soon as it was posted. Can anyone confirm?
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

It's right but not best term.
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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MDBG.com Chinese dictionary translates:

收 (shou1) to receive / to accept / to collect /
These are most correct meaning of the '收'.



and sometimes we may say it's "to get" or "to take" something...
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

Agree with all the above comments. The complete definition should have included in the sale's thread.

However, in Chinese domains forums, '收' is the character used for "buy", so junling is correct in this regard.
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

short form for 收购?
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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short form for 收购?
yes

Thanks comments.
I can assure the accuracy of translation!


收.com =>已被注册 查看
收.hk =>已被注册 查看
收.net =>已被注册 查看
收.tw =>已被注册 查看
收.中国 =>已被注册 查看

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Old 12-26-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

Starts at $15
Increments $10.
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BIN: 100
Auction ends 24 hours after last bid
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Old 12-26-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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Quote:
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MDBG.com Chinese dictionary translates:

收 (shou1) to receive / to accept / to collect /
These are most correct meaning of the '收'.
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IDNer has a solid knowledge of Chinese language! I haven't seen him err in any case.


Every elementary student in China knows :

收 = to receive / to accept / to collect.


收购 means to COLLECT and buy. 收 = collect, 购 = buy.

Based on the explanation of China's most authoritative unabridged Dictionary of Chinese Language (汉语大词典普及本), "收" here means "to collect" page 1671:

[收购]: 指大量或从各方面收集购买。

收购 is a term used by merchants, traders or manufacturers to stock up (collect) merchandise (through payment). Since the emphasis of this term (收购) is on "collecting", we sometimes drop the word "buy"(购) and use "收" alone. Nevertheless, "收" can be understood as "to COLLECT and BUY" only when in context. Without context, "收" is "to collect", period. (All large and small Chinese dictionaries prove that)

To understand this better, we can compare the similarity of the word "grab" in English:

Example: Do you intend to grab this domain name?

"grab" can be understood as "buy" only in context (a question to a domainer or a domain trader).

"grab" by itself (without the context) is not "buy".

Conclusion: To say "收" means "buy" or "purchase" is WRONG.

And to quote google search: 686,000,000 and baidu search:59,200,000 for such meaning is MISLEADING. (because less than 0.01% of these searches have anything to do with "收" = "buy")
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

Single char translation is never easy, one character can mean so many different things.
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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Single char translation is never easy, one character can mean so many different things.
When you're in doubt, consult the dictionary. That's what dictionaries are there for.
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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Originally Posted by Giant
IDNer has a solid knowledge of Chinese language! I haven't seen him err in any case.


Every elementary student in China knows :

收 = to receive / to accept / to collect.


收购 means to COLLECT and buy. 收 = collect, 购 = buy.

Based on the explanation of China's most authoritative unabridged Dictionary of Chinese Language (汉语大词典普及本), "收" here means "to collect" page 1671:

[收购]: 指大量或从各方面收集购买。

收购 is a term used by merchants, traders or manufacturers to stock up (collect) merchandise (through payment). Since the emphasis of this term (收购) is on "collecting", we sometimes drop the word "buy"(购) and use "收" alone. Nevertheless, "收" can be understood as "to COLLECT and BUY" only when in context. Without context, "收" is "to collect", period. (All large and small Chinese dictionaries prove that)

To understand this better, we can compare the similarity of the word "grab" in English:

Example: Do you intend to grab this domain name?

"grab" can be understood as "buy" only in context (a question to a domainer or a domain trader).

"grab" by itself (without the context) is not "buy".

Conclusion: To say "收" means "buy" or "purchase" is WRONG.

And to quote google search: 686,000,000 and baidu search:59,200,000 for such meaning is MISLEADING. (because less than 0.01% of these searches have anything to do with "收" = "buy")
首先,谢谢你的翻译
我来自中国,对中国语言有很深厚的理解.
从字面意思看你的翻译是正确的,
但从口语的角度讲,我认为任何一个中国人都会把"收"理解为"buy".
收给人的第一印象也绝对是"buy"的意思.
结论:"收"="buy" 没有错误
希望更多对中国文化了解的人参与讨论

谢谢!

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When you're in doubt, consult the dictionary. That's what dictionaries are there for.

字典的翻译永远不及人的翻译
举个例子:任何一个中国小学生都知道"去你妈的"是什么意思,但翻译器翻译为"Go to your mother's"!你能理解它的意思么?

仅仅举个例子,不针对任何人,请不要对号入座!

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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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但从口语的角度讲,我认为任何一个中国人都会把"收"理解为"buy".
收给人的第一印象也绝对是"buy"的意思.
结论:"收"="buy" 没有错误
希望更多对中国文化了解的人参与讨论

谢谢!


應該這麼說 :
"收" 這個字 有時候可以解釋成英文裡的 'to buy' -



倘若 "收"="buy" 成立;

那麼大家常用的 [收信] 與 [收錢], [收容]
解釋成 - [買信] 與 [買錢], [買容]
似乎就講不通了 -
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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但从口语的角度讲,我认为任何一个中国人都会把"收"理解为"buy".

如果'收'是'收购'的简称, 那么'收'的正确英文翻译应该是'acquire'或'acquisition'.

'收' -> Collect
'购' -> Buy

'收'+'购' = Collect + Buy = Acquire/Acquisition


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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

谢谢帮助!
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Is this *still* an English speaking forum?!
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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Is this *still* an English speaking forum?!
Sorry
I think that some words or a Chinese translation!
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Re: 收.net "buy" Auction

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Is this *still* an English speaking forum?!
如果'收'是'收购'的简称, 那么'收'的正确英文翻译应该是'acquire'或'acquisition'.

'收' -> Collect
'购' -> Buy

'收'+'购' = Collect + Buy = Acquire/Acquisition

Translation:

If '收' is the short form for '收购', then the correct English translation for '收' should be 'acquire' or 'acquisition'.

The misunderstanding is over the term 'buy'. '收' means acquire, that's why the seller brought up the example of acquiring domain names. Acquisition carries the meaning of "collect" and "buy", but it is definitely different from "buy".
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