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Regarding the japanese single char. auction

Kenne is running his japanese single char. domains auction..i dont want to mess up his sales thread so this is to confirm the below is acceptable:

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ァ.com

Since these 2 never got a bid at this point i agreed on a bin amt with kenne via pm.
if anyone objects pls post here so we dont move forward.
Kenne, as agreed the amt is pending conf. these specific 2 are 1keystroke each.

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If no bid is placed seller is free to do as he pleases with domains. If he has agreed to sell them to you, then you are the lucky winner!
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

darn, i can't believe i failed to keep up with the auction 2 years ago. what the hell was i think doing? :o

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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

Thanks for the reassurance RD.
Touch can you give us more info on these?
are any or all 1keystroke domains?
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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Thanks for the reassurance RD.
Touch can you give us more info on these?
are any or all 1keystroke domains?

I'm only down to JP OVT, but Olney, Edwin or Ryu might share some light on their usage.

Hey, RD posted a pic of the keyboard. Looks like the smaller case needs a shift press?
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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I'm only down to JP OVT, but Olney, Edwin or Ryu might share some light on their usage.
Forget Olney and Edwin. They authoritatively informed me they were worthless a couple of year ago!

My single characters get much more traffic than my generics and despite his scepticism, Rhys was unable to disprove my assertion that they were the only real clear evidence of direct type-in we have from Japan.

You need to understand the difference between Katakana and Hirigana. You also need to be aware that there are some "Small" characters that are have specific uses that set them apart and probably make them less valuable.

My view is that Hirigana dot coms should be fetching Mid to High $x,xxx at this stage of the game with the capacity to rise to $xxx,xxx or even $x,xxx,xxx.

At the end of the day, it is down to the individual to call his own bet.
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

Excuse my ignorance...are Kenne's domains all Katakana or Hirigana?

What i am missing is with all due respect to anyone's opinion...IF these are typed like you would type b.com or g.com then i dont see how they are not worth a serious amount of money? doesnt serve my interest as a buyer to say that but ill deal with that
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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My view is that Hirigana dot coms should be fetching Mid to High $x,xxx at this stage of the game with the capacity to rise to $xxx,xxx or even $x,xxx,xxx.

At the end of the day, it is down to the individual to call his own bet.

It's great -

But how is the value of KATAKANA single alphabet at moment?

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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

There are basically three sets of characters in Japanese.

One is Kanji or Chinese Script.

The other are both Kana. Phonetic alphabets. There are actually other phonetic alphabets in addition to these but they are not much used.

The other distinction between these alphabets and Latin is that vowels are included in the consonants. Effectively each character is two letters in Western understanding. For this reason there are more characters as there are basically five forms of most consonants, although this is offset by having fewer basic sounds.

か ka き ki く ku け ke こ ko

Hiragana is used for writing Japanese Words. Katakana is used for writing foreign words. To my knowledge you can shift the keyboard from one to the other. So in sense they are both single keystrokes. The home setting though and those marked on the keys are generally hiragana.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana

ッ.com
ァ.com
ョ.com
ュ.com
ル.com katakana
ぶ.com hiragana
ぜ.com hiragana
ツ.com katakana
ヒ.com katakana
ヘ.com katakana
ず.com hiragana

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It's great -

But how is the value of KATAKANA single alphabet at moment?

Thank!
According to the current market Katakana is worth more than Hirigana, as the only data we have is this auction. Katakana is attracting higher bids than Hirigana!
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

these are phonetic modifiers.

for example リ = ri
リョ = ryo
リヨ = riyo

i dont have a japanese keyboard so i cant remember if they are single or not.

i think that single chars in any alphabet would be worth a shed load after a while...
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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According to the current market Katakana is worth more than Hirigana, as the only data we have is this auction. Katakana is attracting higher bids than Hirigana!

Thanks a lot Dave -
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Thanks a lot Dave -
I think we are seeing a distortion here because the bidders are not Japanese.

I believe the Japanese themselves would favour Hiragana, but I could always be wrong!
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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I think we are seeing a distortion here because the bidders are not Japanese.

I believe the Japanese themselves would favour Hiragana, but I could always be wrong!
I think one of the bidders is distorted.
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You need to get hold of one of these to figure out what is really going on:

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Very cool laptop RD.
Speaking of, i got one yesterday...not even sure why i got this one...maybe because of the color. sony vaio PCG-5J2L , any good?
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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

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I think we are seeing a distortion here because the bidders are not Japanese.

I believe the Japanese themselves would favour Hiragana, but I could always be wrong!
My friend used to study & work in Japan for about 10 years -
and he told me that "Hirigana is better than Katakana" before (around 2 years ago); but his work was nothing todo with the domain name
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Very cool laptop RD.
Speaking of, i got one yesterday...not even sure why i got this one...maybe because of the color. sony vaio PCG-5J2L , any good?
No this is what I am using myself:

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Re: Regarding the japanese single char. auction

there are more than one way people can use to type japanese characters.

personally, i would type these domains in following ways:

ッ.com: ltsu + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ァ.com: la + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ョ.com: lyo + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ュ.com: lyu + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ル.com: ru + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ぶ.com: bu + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ぜ.com: ze + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ツ.com: tsu + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ヒ.com: hi + F7 + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ヘ.com: he + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com
ず.com: zu + Enter + (switch to latin) + .com

in short, none of these are remotely comparable to one-char-domains of english.

do i think these domains are valuable?
haha... perhaps to domain collectors like many of you here....

i think the reason why ル.com is valued the most here is because it looks better than the others.

on the other hand, some of the above domains look and sound terrible to japanese eyes (and ears).
i am sure no japanese person would want to build a proper website using them.

btw, single japanese kanji.whatever is also not that easy for japanese to type in.
especially when it comes to barely used kanji.blabla (like 粧.com that was on the appraisal thread the other day), it's as difficult as typing in abcdefghijklmn.com.
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Sorry i can't talk now, busy fixing my machine :o

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Ryu,

If I were you, I would get one of these with your Christmas money:

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