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Old 24th January 2008, 12:28 PM
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Hello. I am back. What's new?

I have found very strange not seeing a thread about the ie7 compulsory update next month.

This is the end for ie6.
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

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This is only for end-users and small companies who have no pull with M$. IE7 can not and will not be forced on large corporations - they will take it if and when they damn well please.

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that's what we want surely?
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that's what we want surely?

It depends on the domain/portfolio. I suppose most people aren't hitting sex related domains at work, but plenty of service and product shopping are done by people while being at work. I get some of the heaviest traffic to my most lucrative domains right during the workday for the timezone in question.

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It's everywhere. I've read it on my phone rss reader on many blogs.

http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/01/21/0652248.shtml
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...ming_soon.html
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This is only for end-users and small companies who have no pull with M$. IE7 can not and will not be forced on large corporations - they will take it if and when they damn well please.

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Auto Updates will have to be disables as far as I know to prevent this happening. The Update blocking tool I believe will have expired and not prevent this happening. That seems however to be the way things work here. They get the approved updates from Head Office and things happen by the backdoor. Not all large companies work this way. A lot more people are going to get updated very soon.
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Auto Updates will have to be disables as far as I know to prevent this happening. The Update blocking tool I believe will have expired and not prevent this happening. That seems however to be the way things work here. They get the approved updates from Head Office and things happen by the backdoor. Not all large companies work this way. A lot more people are going to get updated very soon.

Big companies block access to the M$ update server at their firewall. These companies use enterprise management systems like IBM Tivoli and such to manage updates and hotfixes. If they don't put the new package into their software management system, it doesn't get installed as 99% of users don't have admin rights and can't update on their own or would be in violation of company policy if they did it at home.

I've been inside of too many big companies to know that they don't just do updates because M$ wants it, and they don't allow their users to do updates either.

What you will see updated from this "compulsory" update is home users and small businesses. Large business, government, military etc won't be affected.

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Big companies block access to the M$ update server at their firewall. These companies use enterprise management systems like IBM Tivoli and such to manage updates and hotfixes. If they don't put the new package into their software management system, it doesn't get installed as 99% of users don't have admin rights and can't update on their own or would be in violation of company policy if they did it at home.

I've been inside of too many big companies to know that they don't just do updates because M$ wants it, and they don't allow their users to do updates either.

What you will see updated from this "compulsory" update is home users and small businesses. Large business, government, military etc won't be affected.

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Except in as much as it strongly signals the whole software environment is moving on. We can and do now request IE7 as an approved update. It not a blanket update, but it is now supported.
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

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It depends on the domain/portfolio. I suppose most people aren't hitting sex related domains at work, but plenty of service and product shopping are done by people while being at work. I get some of the heaviest traffic to my most lucrative domains right during the workday for the timezone in question.

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I wouldnt worry about it for Asian domains, for all the clients i've serviced in Japan, Korea and Taiwan the strong majority of companies do not allow web access at the desk.
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

Is this just for English IE7 or for all languages?
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Is this just for English IE7 or for all languages?
Job to tell from the releases but it is coordinated with the Japanese Roll out. I think Japan is going to get both at once.

More here:

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/20...ofts-ie-7.html
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

if you’re an IT admin and you use WSUS to manage the rollout of updates across your network, you may wake up and find that Internet Explorer is now at version seven.

LOL

Pirated + Company networks = it will be massive.

No IT admin will want Microsoft to blame him not to have made what WSUS was telling him, on a sucessfull hack attempt.
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

I've worked with enough corps to back up whats already been said.

A move to ie7 will be a strategic move made on the corps timescale.

most corps have an "image" of a pc, that is rolled out and maintained centrally - no adhoc AU's will get thru.
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I've worked with enough corps to back up whats already been said.

A move to ie7 will be a strategic move made on the corps timescale.

most corps have an "image" of a pc, that is rolled out and maintained centrally - no adhoc AU's will get thru.
Yes, I know, lol. I always drove the IT departments mad where I worked at. Was almost fired once or twice because of insisting on having my own setup, lol.
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Re: ie7 compulsory update

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Yes, I know, lol. I always drove the IT departments mad where I worked at. Was almost fired once or twice because of insisting on having my own setup, lol.
why doesn't that surprise me.
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why doesn't that surprise me.
Thanks... I guess...
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I've worked with enough corps to back up whats already been said.

A move to ie7 will be a strategic move made on the corps timescale.

most corps have an "image" of a pc, that is rolled out and maintained centrally - no adhoc AU's will get thru.
I think one of the reasons given by Microsoft originally for pulling the Auto Updates originally is that IT in Japan is not so centrally controlled. Of course picking out the truth from the lies may be difficult, but we should not assume that Japan and Britain work in exactly the same way.
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