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[camarro]

Originally Posted by jose

That's why latin IDNs rocks! No dname to worrie about!

that is one side of the coin, the other is that probably 90% of people wont type in
with accents, in our case with the exception of "ç" that has its own key, every other accent riquere shift+key, alt+key or whatever, people are lazy, unless keyboards develop according with complete regional accents latin idns will not reach their full value, and that is not easy seeing that some latin languages have so many accents.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by camarro

that is one side of the coin, the other is that probably 90% of people wont type in
with accents, in our case with the exception of "ç" that has its own key, every other accent riquere shift+key, alt+key or whatever, people are lazy, unless keyboards develop according with complete regional accents latin idns will not reach their full value, and that is not easy seeing that some latin languages have so many accents.

I disagree. OK, I agree if you only consider French, Spanish, and Italian to be "latin IDNs". Otherwise, German, Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, etc - all of these languages actually have separate keys for their non-ascii characters.

As well, German IDNs have proven to be the most valuable to date according to public sales figures.

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[camarro]

yes, i was mainly refering to the latin countries, specifically to portuguese keyboards, good to hear that the northern countries have that solved.

[jose]

Originally Posted by camarro

that is one side of the coin, the other is that probably 90% of people wont type in
with accents, in our case with the exception of "ç" that has its own key, every other accent riquere shift+key, alt+key or whatever, people are lazy, unless keyboards develop according with complete regional accents latin idns will not reach their full value, and that is not easy seeing that some latin languages have so many accents.

Oh, of course, "pais" e "país" are the same thing, right?

[camarro]

Originally Posted by jose

Oh, of course, "pais" e "país" are the same thing, right?

no, they dont have the same meaning, and even in a rare case like that (complitely different meaning from one to another) unless you are a portuguese
teacher nobody knows if it is "país" or "paìs" and really almost no one cares either.

[tikonenko]

Originally Posted by Charrua

I don't know which is more popular i just can tell you as a Spanish speaking person that when i think in the masculine version clásico it just comes to my mind (fútbol clásico, partido clásico, classic game of soccer, classic soccer) like a tournament of classic soccer teams yes all that comes to my mind LOL and when i think in the femenine version clásica it comes (música clásica, classic music)

agree 100%

[jose]

Originally Posted by camarro

no, they dont have the same meaning, and even in a rare case like that (complitely different meaning from one to another) unless you are a portuguese
teacher nobody knows if it is "país" or "paìs" and really almost no one cares either.

One is "parents" and the other is "country" and no one cares?
Rare case? How about mão and mao?

Gramatical correction maters:

um tipo tava pra morrer e foi escrever seu testamento, mas como não tinha mto tempo, e não pontuou correctamente nada....quando encontraram o corpo, o papel dizia o seguinte:

meu dinheiro eu dou a minha irmã não ao meu irmão jamais será paga a conta do padeiro nada dou aos pobres

a irmã leu e disse q havia deixado todo o dinheiro pra el.
Ela leu: meu dinheiro eu dou a minha irmã. não ao meu irmão. jamais será paga a conta do padeiro. nada dou aos pobres.

o irmão disse que o dinheiro era dele. ele leu:
meu dinheiro eu dou a minha irmã? não. ao meu irmão. jamais será paga a conta do padeiro. nada dou aos pobres.

o padeiro entao, sabendo da história disse que o dinheiro era dele.
meu dinheiro eu dou a minha irmã? não. ao meu irmão? jamais. será paga a conta do padeiro. nada dou aos pobres.

por fim (o mais previsível de todos), foi o pobre dizer q o dinheiro era dele..
meu dinheiro eu dou a minha irmã? não. ao meu irmão? jamais. será paga a conta do padeiro? nada. dou aos pobres!

[camarro]

jose, im sure you use some kind off instant message service, either hotmail or
some other, please tell me how many people will type in accents in their words?
i use it to and i know that the answer is not many, in fact, most people dont use
most of them, younger people even less, yes they will use "ã" and they will use
"ç" but probably they will never use "á" or "à" or "ô" or "ó", etc, unless they are taking a poortuguese test or something, and i doubt that they will type it in on the browsers bar.
im not saying these domains are trash, i guess they are brandables and if some big company wants one they could go for the "proper" version, i just think they
will not reach full value with the current typing habits and keyboard display.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by camarro

jose, im sure you use some kind off instant message service, either hotmail or
some other, please tell me how many people will type in accents in their words?
i use it to and i know that the answer is not many, in fact, most people dont use
most of them, younger people even less, yes they will use "ã" and they will use
"ç" but probably they will never use "á" or "à" or "ô" or "ó", etc, unless they are taking a poortuguese test or something, and i doubt that they will type it in on the browsers bar.
im not saying these domains are trash, i guess they are brandables and if some big company wants one they could go for the "proper" version, i just think they
will not reach full value with the current typing habits and keyboard display.

Languages evolve, spelling evolves, and scripts evolve. If a thing falls out of common use for long enough, it will eventually be phased out.

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[jose]

Originally Posted by camarro

jose, im sure you use some kind off instant message service, either hotmail or
some other, please tell me how many people will type in accents in their words?
i use it to and i know that the answer is not many, in fact, most people dont use
most of them, younger people even less, yes they will use "ã" and they will use
"ç" but probably they will never use "á" or "à" or "ô" or "ó", etc, unless they are taking a poortuguese test or something, and i doubt that they will type it in on the browsers bar.
im not saying these domains are trash, i guess they are brandables and if some big company wants one they could go for the "proper" version, i just think they
will not reach full value with the current typing habits and keyboard display.

Yes, I agree.

But I bet a credit card company investors would prefer to see their money invested on cartãodecrédito.com instead of cartaodecredito.com.

Isn't the unacented version a typo?

And Google already knows that and sends the corrected versions on your unacented searches. Only the type-ins are lost.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Languages evolve, spelling evolves, and scripts evolve. If a thing falls out of common use for long enough, it will eventually be phased out.

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Maybe and sometimes changes can be implemented by political will, example reinstatement of Hebrew, Simplified Chinese, or Latinisation of Czech and Polish.

However, the World is not just going to turn around and start doing things the American way just because the Yanks are in financial difficulties and have started to take some notice of what is going on in the rest of the World.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

However, the World is not just going to turn around and start doing things the American way just because the Yanks are in financial difficulties and have started to take some notice of what is going on in the rest of the World.

What's that got to do with the price of eggs in China?

These people are omitting accents out of pure laziness and/or because they see everybody else behaving the same way. It's their own culture. Some languages may be understandable without their accents, but none of them are understandable without their umlauts.

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