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Old 23rd November 2005, 11:32 PM
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IDN (.com) for places in Japan

If you have IDN (.com form only i.e. no .net, .jp etc.) for places in Japan, and you are looking to make a few $$, let me know - I just might be interested. Depends on the place, of course...
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Would that be cash, paypal, or furikomi???

These are the ones I have

xn--ehqt31hb0r.com (三重県.com) Mie ken : 65689OVTjp
xn--nit492du4v.com (岐阜県.com) Gifu Ken : 53347OVTjp
xn--efvn9spmg.com (新潟県.com)Niigataken : 51868OVTjp
xn--1lq710bp61b.com (京都府.com) Kyoto Fu : 36424OVTjp

Kyoto fu is the only state extention that the name only is more popularly searched...
These were all drops.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

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If you have IDN (.com form only i.e. no .net, .jp etc.) for places in Japan, and you are looking to make a few $$, let me know - I just might be interested. Depends on the place, of course...
What are you interested in Regions, Cities or Prefectures?

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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

I'd rather not be too specific (unless and until I see something I like) as I (hopefully understandably) don't want to tip my hand to the specific niche I'm looking at since I am considering various registration options in that niche. So if you've got a domain that qualifies as a "place" anywhere in Japan, I potentially might be interested, though in practice probably 99% of stuff will be off-topic.

Sorry if that's an annoying way to do it - not meant to inconvenience anyone. But if I run up the flag and say "large market towns in the north of England" (to use a totally dissimilar geographic example) then I've potentially created a whole lot more competition for myself.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Ok understood if interested just pm me.

I really should work on getting the portfolio site up.

I think it would help out a lot.
Hopefully I could put it up next month a a beta.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Still open to more suggestions!
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Still open to more suggestions!
18 Japanese cities changed hands with the city sign yesterday.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Yes, I was fully aware of that, but they didn't interest me. A bargain for the buyer - my pockets are much deeper than $45/name for the right name(s).
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Have you first checked the price of the right name? :D
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

You might have a look at these.

黒川温泉.com (Kurokawa hot spring)
城崎温泉.com (Kinosaki hot spring)
浅間温泉.com (Asama hot spring)
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Just a note on the city sign...we were the buyers of the 18 Japanese cities. The city signs were definately a red flag to us going in...being new to Japanese names. We had a few of our staff at work do the research, and found existing city and tourist websites using this as commonplace throughout Japan. I can't say it is equal to a Japanese domain name without, but it was definately a common practice as evidenced by our searches.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

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Just a note on the city sign...we were the buyers of the 18 Japanese cities. The city signs were definately a red flag to us going in...being new to Japanese names. We had a few of our staff at work do the research, and found existing city and tourist websites using this as commonplace throughout Japan. I can't say it is equal to a Japanese domain name without, but it was definately a common practice as evidenced by our searches.
Yes, you're right. It's not the case with Chinese cities, but it is indeed the case with Japanese cities and prefectures. There are only a few counter-examples, which tend to be the much larger cities, like Tokyo or Osaka.

Prefectures are also referred to as 'prefecture'-'ken'.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

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Have you first checked the price of the right name?   :D
My budget is pretty flexible, up to $x,xxx for the right name. Still haven't seen what I'm looking for, yet.
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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

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Have you first checked the price of the right name?   :D
My budget is pretty flexible, up to $x,xxx for the right name. Still haven't seen what I'm looking for, yet.
There is a company TDC that registered dozens of 1st tier Japanese and Chinese domains like tokyo.com, creditcards.com in Japanese, back in year 2000 when it costs $70 a year to reserve a domain.

You can find contact via WHOIS.

Dave and Olney also got some good domains.
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Have you first checked the price of the right name? :D
My budget is pretty flexible, up to $x,xxx for the right name. Still haven't seen what I'm looking for, yet.
There is a company TDC that registered dozens of 1st tier Japanese and Chinese domains like tokyo.com, creditcards.com in Japanese, back in year 2000 when it costs $70 a year to reserve a domain.

You can find contact via WHOIS.

Dave and Olney also got some good domains.
Yes, these guys got in 5 years ago. Long before I had even heard about the possibility of IDN. Smart guys, but I don't think they will be selling anytime soon!

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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

Probably people working or related to people working at Verisign/Icann. They probably cherry picked and locked onto most of the best names in 2000.
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Probably people working or related to people working at Verisign/Icann. They probably cherry picked and locked onto most of the best names in 2000.
Yes, I think you are absolutely correct. It will be people that were working on the system that had the inside information.

Good luck to them! They have devised something incredibly powerful that will benefit a great number of people, not just domainers.

The obvious deduction is that they knew then what these would be worth eventually, not just now. They are not going to sell out now unless someone is prepared to dig really deep and I think we are talking at least 5 figures maybe 6. Even then they may not sell. Would you sell the IDN for Tokyo in dot com? I think not!

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Re: IDN (.com) for places in Japan

I also noticed that many of the prime domains were registered in 2000. I think touchring is probably right about the registrations by those in-the-know.

I've contacted one domainer not on these boards with regard to a nice city name and he's not selling for under 5 figures. The negotiation stopped right there
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I also noticed that many of the prime domains were registered in 2000. I think touchring is probably right about the registrations by those in-the-know.

I've contacted one domainer not on these boards with regard to a nice city name and he's not selling for under 5 figures. The negotiation stopped right there
Yes, but just because you wouldn't meet his price, it does not mean that he is wrong.

It may well be that in 12 months he can more than justify that kind of range on the earnings from traffic.

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I also noticed that many of the prime domains were registered in 2000. I think touchring is probably right about the registrations by those in-the-know.

I've contacted one domainer not on these boards with regard to a nice city name and he's not selling for under 5 figures. The negotiation stopped right there 
Yes, but just because you wouldn't meet his price, it does not mean that he is wrong.

It may well be that in 12 months he can more than justify that kind of range on the earnings from traffic.

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A lot of people want to sell at future price, e.g. 5 years later price, which isn't wrong, since they are prepared to hold another 5 years. So what you need to do is find someone who needs to sell immediately, e.g. to fund a hospital operation, etc.
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