мета.net (Russian) with trends

[Lmg67]

мета.net

(Russian language)


TRENDS

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%D0%B...2%D0%B0&ctab=0

Starts at: $250.00

Minimum Increment: $50.00

BIN : $5,000.00

Ends 24 hours after last bid.

At Domainsite.

Paypal.

[Sanakreon]

And what does it mean in Ukraine? Since there is no such word as "мета" in russian.
It is only used as a prefix with the same meaning as english "meta-".

[Lmg67]

I can only tell you it gets a bit of traffic considering I have done nothing with the word but park it, and the trends are good. So people are looking it up and looking for it, whatever it means.

However, in the face of your comment, I'll lower the starting bid to $200.

Well every time I try to change the price in the original post, I get kicked off the forum. Maybe I'm not supposed to change the price!

Seriously, I don't know what the technical difficulties are, but the new starting bid is:

$200

[Sanakreon]

How about a proof of traffic? A screenshot of ur revenue from domainsite might activate sales.

[Lmg67]

I'm curious why you are so interested in the sale of my domain. First you jumped in and told us all the definition of meta. I didn't translate the word meta because I figured we all KNOW what the word meta means, but when you came in and defined it, I thought, 'oh he's just trying to help' so I didn't say anything.

However, if you really want to help

Originally Posted by Sanakreon

activate sales

,

then I suggest making the first bid! That's what usually gets things going, more anything else! So feel free! And I even lowered the starting price for you! Can't ask for much more than that!

(You don't see many screenshots of revenue in here as IDNs aren't yet at the stage of making much, if any, revenue unless perhaps someone has built them into a site or even a mini site, which I have not. But thank you for asking.)

[khurtsiya]

мета is the same with russian word цель

цель
1. (мишень) target 2. (предмет стремления) aim, object, goal, end, purpose

I want to tell also that in Ukraine there is the most popular search engine named meta (meta.ua).

[Sanakreon]

Originally Posted by Lmg67

I didn't translate the word meta because I figured we all KNOW what the word meta means, but when you came in and defined it, I thought, 'oh he's just trying to help' so I didn't say anything.

Originally Posted by Ajiotaj

мета is the same with russian word цель
Quote:
цель
1. (мишень) target 2. (предмет стремления) aim, object, goal, end, purpose

Yes, that is what I expected to hear. Obviously it is not the prefix meta, otherwise it wouldn't be searched so much.

Originally Posted by Lmg67

I can only tell you it gets a bit of traffic considering I have done nothing with the word but park it, and the trends are good. So people are looking it up and looking for it, whatever it means.

I believe there was a rule about this:

Names that have traffic and are being sold as such must have screenshots of said traffic.

That is what I meant. If u claim u have traffic, u have to prove it, otherwise don't mention it.

And no, I am not interested in your domain that much. I just wanted to make it clear for other possible bidders.

[blastfromthepast]

Originally Posted by Sanakreon

Yes, that is what I expected to hear. Obviously it is not the prefix meta, otherwise it wouldn't be searched so much.

Except that it is the prefix meta. Sanakreon, I don't think you are qualified to comment on this domain or the translation. Please don't disturb other people's sales threads like this. This is a good domain sale, with a correct translation and good trends. There is nothing wrong with this sale.

[khurtsiya]

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

Except that it is the prefix meta. Sanakreon, I don't think you are qualified to comment on this domain or the translation. Please don't disturb other people's sales threads like this. This is a good domain sale, with a correct translation and good trends. There is nothing wrong with this sale.

Isn't there problems with TM? I'm shure meta.ua has tm on term мета.

[Lmg67]

Thanks Blast, I appreciate the back-up.

I do want to say that the positive trends I posted are for the word мета.

I don't own the word "цель" so I didn't look up or post trends for that word. So when Sanakreon said,

"Obviously it is not the prefix meta, otherwise it wouldn't be searched so much."

this was incorrect. It is 'searched so much' as what it is, мета, whether for the prefix or because people think it's the search engine doesn't matter.

I had no idea it was a search engine in the Ukraine and to me this just makes it much more valuable of a domain and explains why in the trends, most of the hits come from the Ukraine. My understanding of TM is that if it's a day-to-day, common word, it can't be TM'd. I believe meta would fall under that category.

Anyway I'd like to close this auction thread. Thanks.

[khurtsiya]

Originally Posted by Lmg67

much more valuable

I agree it is much more valuable because of that. I have many TM IDNs myself.

But You can't sell TM domains at this forum. Just look at thread with selling абсолютбанк or банкабсолют (can't remember).

[Lmg67]

"My understanding of TM is that if it's a day-to-day, common word, it can't be TM'd. I believe meta would fall under that category." - Lmg67

Hey I get to quote myself!!

It means that from what I understand about TM law, the word meta is NOT a problem.

Can we close the thread now? I'm sure there's a place on this forum to continue if you want, but this was an auction thread and the auction is over.

P.S. If someone with TM expertise could start a thread perhaps using 'meta' as an example of TM domain law, that might be helpful to others like myself. If I'm wrong, I need to know. But I think it needs to be in the right place on this forum and by the right person who really knows his/her stuff and doesn't have an agenda.

[khurtsiya]

I think the thing is not only in how You understand it, but in udrp And if the company has TM registered - it might be issue.

By the way, You should read the forum ruls:

7. Once a sale or auction has finished, comments may be posted by anyone.

Also You can ask Seamo to close the thread.

Regards,

Michael

[blastfromthepast]

Please see: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/1699...tml#post107857

[khurtsiya]

Thanks for sharing blast. Very clear I think.

[Sanakreon]

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

Except that it is the prefix meta. Sanakreon, I don't think you are qualified to comment on this domain or the translation. Please don't disturb other people's sales threads like this. This is a good domain sale, with a correct translation and good trends. There is nothing wrong with this sale.

My point is that since in russian language мета has only meaning of prefix -meta, but only around 1% of all searches come from Russia, мета is not searched in the meaning of russian prefix -мета.
In the first post it was stated that the language of "мета" is russian, while in fact it would be more appropriate to say that it is ukrainian, since it is searched 5 times more often in ukrainian than in russian.(according to google trends)

That is the whole point.

[blastfromthepast]

Sanakreon, fair enough. Ukrainian and Russian have linguistic and population overlap.

[Sanakreon]

Originally Posted by blastfromthepast

Sanakreon, fair enough. Ukrainian and Russian have linguistic and population overlap.

Maybe most Ukrainian people know russian language, but most Russian people don't know ukrainian language.
Anyway, there is no point to discuss it anymore, since the auction is over. I only made my comments to make it clear for potential bidders.

[Lmg67]

Thanks Dan for the TM info. Very helpful.

Re: meta, the truth is that I thought it was in Russian. When I bought it, that's what I was told. It's one of the very first domains I had, so for almost two years I've thought it's Russian.

I didn't pay attention to where the trends came from until I learned in this thread about the search engine in the Ukraine. (which is where my great-great grandparents are from by the way). I just saw they were decent trends. Then I went back after learning about the search engine and saw that most of the searches came from the Ukraine.

I think a lot of things like can be dealt with in PM. I'd have been more than happy to change the original post to say "Ukrainian language." I only now understood that it's in the Ukrainian language. Or Russian too? I'm still not sure.

I think people here are quick to think that people are trying to get away with something, when 99% of the time, it's a lack of knowledge of the foreign language that is the issue, and a PM can clarify it more kindly than jumping into someone's thread and sounding somewhat attacking or hostile. The person can then edit their post and no one feels stepped on.

Why not give people the benefit of the doubt?

[Sanakreon]

I understand what u mean.

But by no means did I try to be attacking or hostile. I just wanted to clarify things, since u didn't provide translation in the beginning.

I have no doubt that initially u thought that it is in russian language. But some things must be told in public, PM can't solve this since I don't know when will u read it and the auction is already running and bids can be placed at any time.
Sorry if made u feel stepped on.

Originally Posted by Lmg67

Thanks Dan for the TM info. Very helpful.

Re: meta, the truth is that I thought it was in Russian. When I bought it, that's what I was told. It's one of the very first domains I had, so for almost two years I've thought it's Russian.

I didn't pay attention to where the trends came from until I learned in this thread about the search engine in the Ukraine. (which is where my great-great grandparents are from by the way). I just saw they were decent trends. Then I went back after learning about the search engine and saw that most of the searches came from the Ukraine.

I think a lot of things like can be dealt with in PM. I'd have been more than happy to change the original post to say "Ukrainian language." I only now understood that it's in the Ukrainian language. Or Russian too? I'm still not sure.

I think people here are quick to think that people are trying to get away with something, when 99% of the time, it's a lack of knowledge of the foreign language that is the issue, and a PM can clarify it more kindly than jumping into someone's thread and sounding somewhat attacking or hostile. The person can then edit their post and no one feels stepped on.

Why not give people the benefit of the doubt?