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Old 13th February 2008, 03:51 PM
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Hello dname lovers,
Does anyone know why this German character can not be regged as a part of a domain?

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Re: ß

Because it can easily be confused with an acsii domain
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Old 13th February 2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: ß

I Don't think that's what it is.

English: O K H P C M T
Russian: о к н р с м т
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It is only in the second stage that the normalized IDNs are transformed into ASCII strings. Since the ß, however, is converted in the first of these two stages, domains with ß are identical to those that have ss in the same position (for example: hauptstraße.de is equivalent to hauptstrasse.de). For this reason, it is not possible for ß to be registered as a separate letter; it has to continue to make do with the normalized form of ss. However, in programs that are IDN-enabled it is possible to enter ß instead of ss, for instance, if you want to call the domain using your browser. This means: who is interested in a domain with ß has just to register the corresponding domain with ss.
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ss=ß, no punycode needed.
muß.com = muss.com
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Re: ß

Thanks Clipper.
I Recently bought Fussball.TV (Soccer in German) and it does 'forward' to my domain when trying Fußball.TV
The correct version (Fußball) is the prefered one based on google estimator.
Hopefully they won't start allowing ß in registrations.
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Re: ß

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.TV doesn't accept IDN registration

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You should check your source on that. IDN.tv has been allowed for quite a while.
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You should check your source on that. IDN.tv has been allowed for quite a while.

yes, I remembered it a few seconds later.

The ß is transformed in ss in an automatic process called "Normalization"
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Re: ß

Scharfes s, as the Germans call it, aka Eszet, or literally ß, is currently normalized to "ss" by nameprep rules. Nameprep rules (IDNA) are built into your browser, and the registrars use them as well when checking names for registration.

There has been discussion on IETF mailing lists regarding removing this rule, e.g. allowing scharfes s in domain name registrations. If this was done, it would still take some time for all browsers to be updated and they would send traffic to the wrong domain in the meantime.


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The Eszet Character: ß
Based on the Nameprep [RFC3491] specification for a Stringprep [RFC3454] profile for IDNA [RFC3490], the Eszet ß character used in the German script will be mapped to a double s string (i.e. ss).
http://www.iana.org/assignments/idn/info-german.html


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