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555 · #1 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:21 PM

At this point in time, If you had to choose 1 reason, what is the main reason the vast majority of domainers choose to ignore idn domains?
From domainers that hold pure generics to domainers that cant get enough of nnnnnnn.com's.
TRY and remain objective.

Explorer · #2 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:32 PM

The temporary lack of positive group thinking about IDNs.

Rubber Duck · #3 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Explorer

The lack of positive group thinking about IDNs.

More like a total incapacity to think outside the box!

markits · #4 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

More like a total incapacity to think outside the box!

That's it!

555 · #5 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

More like a total incapacity to think outside the box!

That is no doubt the easiest reasoning for that. It may also be the right one but i don't think it's that simple. Far from.

gammascalper · #6 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:44 PM

Lack of browser support would be my guess.

yanni · #7 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:46 PM

No money in idn atm + the uncertainty of things.

Besides the fact that the majority do not know they even exist.

Rubber Duck · #8 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 261275

That is no doubt the easiest reasoning for that. It may also be the right one but i don't think it's that simple. Far from.

Well those that did think outside of the box, and really there were not that many don't need to. Most just tried to jump on the bandwagon. And quite a few of these have been moderately successful. Well, the rest are just total no-hopers that try to mimic the money. The problem is that by the time the business model is there for all to copy, it is largely already spent. If you are going to pick up the baton and run with it ,you need an angle. The dot Mobi crowd understood that, they just didn't do their research and all jumped on the wrong bloody train.

camarro · #9 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:05 PM

What's the big mistery here?
no traffic, no proven revenue,that's it.
there are exceptions, but that's just what they are.
domainers aren´t so different than other investors, they're risk adverse, the few that dont mind the risks are already here and like in other areas of business will cash in big if the assets they've invested in proven valuable in the future.

Rubber Duck · #10 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by camarro

What's the big mistery here?
no traffic, no proven revenue,that's it.
there are exceptions, but that's just what they are.
domainers aren´t so different than other investors, they're risk adverse, the few that dont mind the risks are already here and like in other areas of business will cash in big if the assets they've invested in proven valuable in the future.

Don't kid yourself, they are already proving themselves.

Japan may be a busted flush, but Japan is not where it is at right now.

Frankly, I could careless if Japan stays busted for a while.

Explorer · #11 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by camarro

What's the big mistery here?
no traffic, no proven revenue,that's it.

How much traffic/revenue is in the nnnn.com?

alexd · #12 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:12 PM

I think there isn't really 1 single reason for this. It is a combination of many factors. Money, translations, are they too late to jump onboard, etc.

Some people are leaders, others are followers, and it seems that many such "leaders" give a negative impact about IDNs, thus influencing the "followers" to have the same impression of them.

Thank God I have never been one to follow others around like a sheep !!

rhys · #13 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by camarro

What's the big mistery here?
no traffic, no proven revenue,that's it.
there are exceptions, but that's just what they are.
domainers aren´t so different than other investors, they're risk adverse, the few that dont mind the risks are already here and like in other areas of business will cash in big if the assets they've invested in proven valuable in the future.

This also probably applies to 75% of the domains that most domainers hold as well. So while it makes sense, it cannot be the reason.

Personally, I believe the argument for IDNs is too nuanced for most domainers to absorb without proof. Many things about it are foreign - the concept of language and script and translation and the fact that English is not simple to users if you don't speak English first. The fact that the browser penetration is still too low as well no doubt.

Rubber Duck · #14 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Explorer

How much traffic/revenue is in the nnnn.com?

NNNNothing!

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Originally Posted by alexd

I think there isn't really 1 single reason for this. It is a combination of many factors. Money, translations, are they too late to jump onboard, etc.

Some people are leaders, others are followers, and it seems that many such "leaders" give a negative impact about IDNs, thus influencing the "followers" to have the same impression of them.

Thank God I have never been one to follow others around like a sheep !!

They don't follow like sheep, they are being skilfully herded!

alexd · #15 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:16 PM

I can't figure out the nnnnn or lllll .com combinations that people out there register. OK, so LLL.com are all gone, and sell for at least $1000 each.

But LLLLL.com or NNNNN.com ??? Why ???
That should be the real question to this thread ??

Why do people invest in NNNN.com rather than IDNs ??

Rubber Duck · #16 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alexd

I can't figure out the nnnnn or lllll .com combinations that people out there register. OK, so LLL.com are all gone, and sell for at least $1000 each.

But LLLLL.com or NNNNN.com ??? Why ???
That should be the real question to this thread ??

Why do people invest in NNNN.com rather than IDNs ??

Because they cannot do the f*cking Math!

bwhhisc · #17 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by alexd

Thank God I have never been one to follow others around like a sheep !!

LOL,
Watch that a few sheep jokes don't come zinging back your way.

alexd · #18 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bwhhisc

LOL,
Watch that a few sheep jokes don't come zinging back your way.

Being a quarter Welsh - I am used to them

Rubber Duck · #19 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bwhhisc

LOL,
Watch that a few sheep jokes don't come zinging back your way.

Perhaps IDNers are just Domainers that have lost their Wellies!

camarro · #20 (**permalink**) 14th February 2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Explorer

How much traffic/revenue is in the nnnn.com?

that´s not the point.
ascii is a proven market. idn´s are not, and will not be until traffic\revenue rises.
i´m talking real traffic here, i think all of us understand that.
show me an idn that receives 10% traffic of his ascii equivalent, geo, brandables,
adult, whatever. it just doesn't happen right now. we're all hoping for that and mutch more, but most wont take the risk (or grab the opportunity).