This is a golden opportunity

[touchring]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Well what you need to understand is that these activex controls etc. are inside of 3rd party software. Convincing 3rd party software vendors to do new releases is like pulling teeth - simple bug fixes can even take 2-3 years. If the problem affects you hard enough, you can do business escalation and they will then issue you a "site specific patch". Software which is involved with financial management needs to be extensively tested and certified, etc. - the process can take months. These people are not going to release new versions just because a new browser comes out; people want to use their service and therefore the browser and browser version can be dictated. That is business reality.

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Ok, fair enough, so i guess Vista can't be used? LOL.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by zorglub

Duck, can you give 1 example of the names you're keeping without traffic ?

I don't really bother to track them individually, but you can reasonably assume that the vast majority of my Hindi have not received traffic. Similarly Azeri has received little traffic.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by markits

I am a late starter, only own very few good domains. But I receive lots of unsolicited offers and my monthly idn rev is at $xxx now.

That is tremendous markits! I'm not sure how many of your fellow late-starters are dragging in $xxx per month (I'm certainly not), so that is testament to your 'markiting' prowess.

[touchring]

Now that i've completed most of my registration works, i've started thinking about 2 things:

1. How to reduce reg cost.
2. How to increase my idn rev.

By comparing adsense to nd, i estimate that nd takes at least a 35% cut (average), so in theory, we can increase our rev by up to 50% or so if we can find a provider with a greater payout.

Has anyone been experimenting with sedopro? How does it compare with ND? Also, there are new stuff on the market like bodis, bido, etc.

[Wot]

I have many names with little or no traffic , both ascii and idn.

One of my most recent sales was an ascci.com that got 1/2 per month and I sold it for $12,000, value is in the eye of the beholder.

Another was an ascii.info for over $4K last week, it ocassionally got one or two.

Traffic, although it can be a major factor, is most definitely not the be all and end all of domain sales that it is held up to be.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Wot

Traffic, although it can be a major factor, is most definitely not the be all and end all of domain sales that it is held up to be.

Yep, the difference between the traffic hunting market and the end user market.

[Wot]

Originally Posted by Jay

Yep, the difference between the traffic hunting market and the end user market.

On the nail.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Jay

Yep, the difference between the traffic hunting market and the end user market.

I myself am in the traffic hunting market. I buy traffic domains for reg fee and I have between 10-20% success rate, e.g. 8-9 domains out of every 10 I register turn out to be losers. But 1 winner can easily produce more yearly revenue than the reg fee for 20 domains, so I am quite happy with my technique even though it is a little bit wasteful if you think about it. In the end, it has a far higher return on investment than buying a domain for $xxxx which has no traffic.

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[Jay]

I follow a similar strategy. I would say most here do, but there is a division between those who are seeking instant traffic, and those seeking domains with potentially high PPC. I think people in the last category are those who are happily sitting on domains with little or no traffic at the moment waiting for the IDN market to explode. I'm sure there are also several here with end-users in mind. They are the patient ones, but I think they will be duly rewarded in the long-term if they can hook up with the right buyer. Of course, we would all ideally pick up domains that hit the mark on all three targets.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

I myself am in the traffic hunting market. I buy traffic domains for reg fee and I have between 10-20% success rate, e.g. 8-9 domains out of every 10 I register turn out to be losers. But 1 winner can easily produce more yearly revenue than the reg fee for 20 domains, so I am quite happy with my technique even though it is a little bit wasteful if you think about it. In the end, it has a far higher return on investment than buying a domain for $xxxx which has no traffic.

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I do this to pay for the reg fees, but i also buy names selectively (names that will make me rich ), regardless of traffic. Multi-prong strategy.

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by touchring

I do this to pay for the reg fees, but i also buy names selectively (names that will make me rich ), regardless of traffic. Multi-prong strategy.

Well, if the Arabs ever happen to get interested in dot com and dot net arabic domains then I am looking very good. That's a big IF, though.

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[touchring]

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Well, if the Arabs ever happen to get interested in dot com and dot net arabic domains then I am looking very good. That's a big IF, though.

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Sure, they will get interested. The old men with white beard won't live forever. They are probably more keen on collecting fleets of lamborghinis, mcLarens and corporate jets. But their kids that grew up playing internet games will get involved. The value of domains as collectables cannot be underestimated - if it earns PPC, all the more better!

But this may take sometime though!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Jay

That is tremendous markits! I'm not sure how many of your fellow late-starters are dragging in $xxx per month (I'm certainly not), so that is testament to your 'markiting' prowess.

For what it's worth, I occasionally get just about that, 100$ a month parked, and I started IDNing in Jan 2007.
Mostly French, but I have other categories that are picking up.
I get that from about 100-200 aggregated domains, but the vast majority of my other ones (hundreds) get very little. I intend to keep one third of those.

Cheers

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Pete

For what it's worth, I occasionally get just about that, 100$ a month parked, and I started IDNing in Jan 2007.
Mostly French, but I have other categories that are picking up.
I get that from about 100-200 aggregated domains, but the vast majority of my other ones (hundreds) get very little. I intend to keep one third of those.

Yes, of course it depends on how many domains you own. If you average 50c per domain in your portfolio, then this will cover renewal. I think anyone who is nearing that point is doing very well for themselves!

On the other hand, I think it is a good strategy to keep stretching your portfolio as far as possible in this stage of the game, which will inevitably bring down your average returns. If I register one domain amongst ten that pays for itself, I'd be very happy with that! Imagine what that domain will bring in two to three years from now? More than enough to cover the short-term losses I would think, and that's before you take into account its resale value.

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by Wot

Traffic, although it can be a major factor, is most definitely not the be all and end all of domain sales that it is held up to be.

Maybe, but I expect all of mine to attract traffic and I shall not be looking for buyers once it arrives.

Originally Posted by jacksonm

Well, if the Arabs ever happen to get interested in dot com and dot net arabic domains then I am looking very good. That's a big IF, though.

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Well, if you are that well positioned you will have no doubt noticed something of an up tick these last few days!

[tee1]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Well, if you are that well positioned you will have no doubt noticed something of an up tick these last few days!

I have a couple ok arabic names, mostly .nets nothing special but have definetely seen a very nice uptick in traffic.

anybody else? I do hope the surge hangs around and doesn't mysteriously disappear.
tee1

[jacksonm]

Originally Posted by Rubber Duck

Well, if you are that well positioned you will have no doubt noticed something of an up tick these last few days!

Yes, Arabic traffic is accounting for about 50% of my total traffic so far this month. My friend in KSA told me that auto-updates are out in the wild now.

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