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Old 11th March 2008, 03:31 PM
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Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

Yes, one of my unindexed IDN.jp domains has started getting type-in traffic. Using the NameDrive Region filter, it shows as originating from Asia.

Not much traffic, but encouraging nonetheless that Japanese type-in is actually starting to happen. Now the 6 million dollar question is "will japanese type-in propensity lean to dot jp or dot com?".

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

Dot jp type in has been there for a long time.
http://www.idnforums.com/forums/1425...om-and-jp.html
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Dot jp type in has been there for a long time.
http://www.idnforums.com/forums/1425...om-and-jp.html

Cool, so the dot com appears to get twice as much type-in as the dot jp.

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Cool, so the dot com appears to get twice as much type-in as the dot jp.

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Twice?

Dream ON!

From Markits' post:


Last year stats:

おもしろムービーズ .com views 114, clicks 25, rev $2.68.

おもしろムービーズ.jp views 53, clicks 16, rev $6.43.


The dot com has roughly twice as much as the dot jp - views and clicks.

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

from my paltry portfolio of Japanese domains it appears to be a close race
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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おもしろムービーズ .com views 114, clicks 25, rev $2.68.

おもしろムービーズ.jp views 53, clicks 16, rev $6.43.
The PPC for .jp is over twice as high here. Is that normal?
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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The PPC for .jp is over twice as high here. Is that normal?

This is not enough clicks to gain an accurate average. A single high priced click on the dot jp could (and likely did) skew the stats of this low sample.

I generally don't consider a PPC average to be trustworthy unless it covers at least a couple hundred clicks.

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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This is not enough clicks to gain an accurate average. A single high priced click on the dot jp could (and likely did) skew the stats of this low sample.

I generally don't consider a PPC average to be trustworthy unless it covers at least a couple hundred clicks.

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Not just a couple hundred clicks. But a couple hundred clicks over a few dozen domains over a one year period.
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

As the outcome will be determined by advertising investment from major corporations, which has not really even begun to happen yet, it is totally futile trying to read the tea leaves in your ND parking stats. But for what it is worth, I am seeing a lot of dot com traffic and zilch on dot JP, but then my portfolio is highly skewed.
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Dot jp type in has been there for a long time.
http://www.idnforums.com/forums/1425...om-and-jp.html
what makes you believe that the traffic is coming from type-in and not from serp?
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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what makes you believe that the traffic is coming from type-in and not from serp?

Easy - neither one of them are indexed in yahoo or google, I just checked.

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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what makes you believe that the traffic is coming from type-in and not from serp?
I don't have solid evidence. But none of these domains are yahooJP or GoogleJP listed. I haven't checked other JP Search Engines though.

But, I have quite a few pairs of com vs jp domains. All the jps receives less traffic than the com. I don't think that the dot jp receives lower SEO priority than the dot com.
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

Strange, I can't find it:

http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22...a&lr=&filter=0


Can you paste the link how you found it?


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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Strange, I can't find it:

http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%22...a&lr=&filter=0


Can you paste the link how you found it?


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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

Can you click my link above and see why it doesn't bring the result?

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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

Use Ryu's link both com and jp are indexed with exactly the same appearance. This doesn't necessary means that the traffic are not typeins.

The bottom line is that we believe com gets more traffic than jp.
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

i suspect that the majority of traffic is SE and type-in is so little, even 6 mths traffic is not representative.
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Re: Starting to see Asian type-in on IDN.jp

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Can you click my link above and see why it doesn't bring the result?
Perhaps you don't need ""? In any case, google is a funny animal and it's not easy to determine if your domain is truely not listed. The name may not show up when you search with the domain name, etc, but sometimes it shows up with another keyword...

At the moment, I believe it is only very top Japanese IDNs that are getting some real type-ins but others get next to nothing. I can't say with any confidence if at the moment .jp or .com gets more type-in traffic.

About the future, I personally hope that .com beats .jp because of what I own, but i am highly doubtfull about that. From what I can gather, it appears that a large number of Japanese celebrities have IDN.jp and not IDN.com. Also, many companies have kept IDN.jp since day 1 and it is likely that they'd use the names once the majority of browsers support IDNs. And it is only normal to expect the extension with more websites to win more type-ins. Another factor that may play a role in the future is the ease of type-in... At the moment, jp is far easier to type-in from mobile phones (only 2 keystrokes) whereas .com requires way more. This wouldn't matter though once mobile phones become clever enough to automatically add extensions.

About markits's domains, it is obvious that peope are searching for this website. So, you are kinda free-riding. But the funny thing is, the website itself is free-riding on others' contents....
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