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Old 23rd March 2008, 08:14 AM
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One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Good article that spells out the problem. I don't fault China for being keen business players.
It is perhaps a good thing to see a more even distribution of weath worldwide.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Good information yet I dont see any true suggestions for solution in his complaint.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Thanks for the link. A good informative article.
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Good information yet I dont see any true suggestions for solution in his complaint.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Good information yet I dont see any true suggestions for solution in his complaint.
The problem is that expectations are unrealistic. If economies are boosted through fiscal expansion rather than by simply investment and added value, then recessions are inevitable. If you keep pumping money into the system to avoid recessions, rather than properly managing the economy to achieve that effect, then eventually you just end up with a much bigger problem that can only self correct through a very deep recession. Of couse Bush has now decided there is no way that can be allowed to happen in election year, so the solution is to compound the problem in a very aggressive manner, in the hope that the Republicans can tough it out until after November. The problem is that if indeed by some miracle they achieve their aim, then the country will be just about ungovernable. If you read carefully the solution is there, but most people would not currently even recognise that as a solution. Even if America were in the correct mindset, the current problem could take the best part of a decade to rectify. The way things are at the moment, it could take a decade to get the nation in the right mindset. It took thirty years for Britain to turn things around and get it right, and already we are danger of losing the plot after a dozen or so years of success.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

I don't know why America doesn't just come to you for help RD .. you would turn the country around in no time!
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I don't know why America doesn't just come to you for help RD .. you would turn the country around in no time!
Well sending Bush to the Chair would be a bloody good start.
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I don't know why America doesn't just come to you for help RD .. you would turn the country around in no time!

U don't have to worry, that's what obama is here for, to give Americans cold turkey treatment next year. There's going to be a lot of tightening post Bush. Like it or not, mcCain and Clinton are too entrenched in the system to change it.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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U don't have to worry, that's what obama is here for, to give Americans cold turkey treatment next year. There's going to be a lot of tightening post Bush. Like it or not, mcCain and Clinton are too entrenched in the system to change it.

Oh if only the glass ceiling weren't so impregnable, Americans might have some hope. What a catch 22.

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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Oh if only the glass ceiling weren't so impregnable, Americans might have some hope. What a catch 22.

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Best scenario of idners is for mcCain to be voted into office. This way, america will continue spending money, i.e. continue the war, and china will continue exporting and develop its economy, buy US treasury bonds to fund the war.

Ironically, this is the best scenario for RD also.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Sure sounds like pre nazi germany to me... Could obahma be the anti christ???
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Hold ankles, brace for rear impact. :p
Yep.

Set yourself up to survive the coming correction, and you'll be well placed for the start of the next bubble.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Interesting article, but guy looks to be a quack on China.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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There's going to be a lot of tightening post Bush.
Tightening your bush?! :o This doesn't sound like economics at all!
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

Surely someone would make more money with a tightened Bush?
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Well sending Bush to the Chair would be a bloody good start.
And dirty our machinery with his nasty ashes? No way, to the Hague with him.
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And dirty our machinery with his nasty ashes? No way, to the Hague with him.
Second thought, why go to the expense. Just drop the Cavalcade for a few minutes, and you probably won't need to bother anyway!

Just been imagining how the conversation with Cheney has been going in Arabia.

Cheney: Greetings you highness.
Interpreter: Greeting you Highness
King: What does this infidel son of a bitch want?
Interpreter: His Majesty is honoured to meet you.
Cheney: Well, actually I have come here to do some serious talking.
Interpreter: The Vice President loves your Palace your Majesty.
King: Well tell him if he want more oil he is going to have to pay for it.
Interpreter: The King is always honoured to do business with you.
Cheney: America has been looking after your ass and now it is pay back time.
Interpreter: He is rather serius about getting some more oil.
King: Well tell him he can have as much as he wants but to bring gold bars next time. We don't want any more of those IOUs with Washington's head on anymore.
Interpreter: The King is seeking a serious work relationship.
Cheney: America is going through a hard time at the moment, we expect you to come threw for us.
Interpreter: He is desperate.
King: Well tell him we want Joint Strike fighters, patriots, some nuclear armed cruise missiles, then he needs to get his crusading armies out of the Middle East.... and we also want an undertaking he will stop antagonising Iran.
Interpreter: His Majesty feels the current levels of production are adequate to meet market demands.
Cheney: Can we talk again soon.
Intrepreter: He is honour to have an audience with you Majesty.
King: Tell the filthy the Infidel to get the fuck off my land.
Interpreter: You are welcome anytime Mr Vice-President.
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Re: One American that is getting very close to understanding the problem!

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Second thought, why go to the expense. Just drop the Cavalcade for a few minutes, and you probably won't need to bother anyway!

Just been imagining how the conversation with Cheney has been going in Arabia.

Cheney: Greetings you highness.
Interpreter: Greeting you Highness
King: What does this infidel son of a bitch want?
Interpreter: His Majesty is honoured to meet you.
Cheney: Well, actually I have come here to do some serious talking.
Interpreter: The Vice President loves your Palace your Majesty.
King: Well tell him if he want more oil he is going to have to pay for it.
Interpreter: The King is always honoured to do business with you.
Cheney: America has been looking after your ass and now it is pay back time.
Interpreter: He is rather serius about getting some more oil.
King: Well tell him he can have as much as he wants but to bring gold bars next time. We don't want any more of those IOUs with Washington's head on anymore.
Interpreter: The King is seeking a serious work relationship.
Cheney: America is going through a hard time at the moment, we expect you to come threw for us.
Interpreter: He is desperate.
King: Well tell him we want Joint Strike fighters, patriots, some nuclear armed cruise missiles, then he needs to get his crusading armies out of the Middle East.... and we also want an undertaking he will stop antagonising Iran.
Interpreter: His Majesty feels the current levels of production are adequate to meet market demands.
Cheney: Can we talk again soon.
Intrepreter: He is honour to have an audience with you Majesty.
King: Tell the filthy the Infidel to get the fuck off my land.
Interpreter: You are welcome anytime Mr Vice-President.
lol, very funny...
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