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Your Japanese minisite performance?

I only have one minisite that is still up. Starting from this month, it's traffic and revenue increased 10+ times. Is this common for all minisites?

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Old 25th March 2008, 07:04 AM
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I only have one minisite that is still up. Starting from this month, it's traffic and revenue increased 10+ times. Is this common for all minisites?

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Yeah - seeing some nice traffic one one of my financial sites, and a few clicks now and then - the rest are starting to rise a bit as well
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Old 25th March 2008, 07:43 AM
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

Probably just type-in. Ignore it. :p
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

Income is up a bit and has been climbing for the last few days or so .. maybe yahoo is letting us climb up the ranks again?.. haven't bothered to check though
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

That would be nice.

Now all I have to do is figure out what to do with these gift certs amazon.jp keeps sending me.
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

No, nothing special here the sites are still generally on life-support compared to last year.
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

Japanese minisites - I only have one 4-pager now, and it's on like page 49 even though it's a single word.

Parking, on the other hand, has taken off recently, despite the occasional problems with ND. I got more clicks yesterday than ever before, and it looks like last month's revenue will be doubled by the 28th of this month.

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Japanese minisites - I only have one 4-pager now, and it's on like page 49 even though it's a single word.

Parking, on the other hand, has taken off recently, despite the occasional problems with ND. I got more clicks yesterday than ever before, and it looks like last month's revenue will be doubled by the 28th of this month.

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Yep, pulling the plug on development is another call the Duck got right, I believe!
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

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Yep, pulling the plug on development is another call the Duck got right, I believe!

Well, the only thing that matters to me is that my portfolio turns a profit. 90% of my parked domains don't get type-in (yet). The 10% which do will currently cover about 30% of my total renewal fees, I estimate. Therefore, development of some sites is still a requirement.

I actually planned to develop all of my domains... But putting up with Google's bullshit rules has become a serious burden - if you want to use adsense, then you need to effectively become a google employee without the perks of being a real employee. Constantly changing rules which require re-implementation or writing policies, etc, is their way of making the business model of minisites financially unfeasible for domainers. And believe me, that is their goal. They only want people who run one or two large sites, not tens or more.

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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

Yes, in other words, they want Bona Fide sites and not Junk.

Why is that a surprise to anyone? :p

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Well, the only thing that matters to me is that my portfolio turns a profit. 90% of my parked domains don't get type-in (yet). The 10% which do will currently cover about 30% of my total renewal fees, I estimate. Therefore, development of some sites is still a requirement.

I actually planned to develop all of my domains... But putting up with Google's bullshit rules has become a serious burden - if you want to use adsense, then you need to effectively become a google employee without the perks of being a real employee. Constantly changing rules which require re-implementation or writing policies, etc, is their way of making the business model of minisites financially unfeasible for domainers. And believe me, that is their goal. They only want people who run one or two large sites, not tens or more.

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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

I have a few sites with 200 or so pages .. hardly junk! .. still got booted down the rankings with the rest though.
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

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I have a few sites with 200 or so pages .. hardly junk! .. still got booted down the rankings with the rest though.
Sounds like some big corporate clients have put a spanner in the works, but it could only be temporary. A lot of somebodies are clearly fully aware of the SEO potential of IDN. Of course it is very hard for the large corporates to jump ship without browser support, so all they can do at present is to get Yahoo to suppress IDN for the time being. Things could go full circle on this.
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

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Yep, pulling the plug on development is another call the Duck got right, I believe!
I have three Japanese minis that are paying for themselves a few times over. Prior to "development" they were trafficless.

My only fully developed Greek site is earning 3 times my ND earnings with 800+ parked domains.
Traffic was almost nil prior to development.

I suppose I should chuck these and wait for the traffic explosion which is due any day now.
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

With regards to developed Greek sites as mentioned by Yanni, I have a couple of them which I knocked up a few years ago, and they are definately earning me much more than they would if parked.

For me, what would be best is to start developing several other of my domains, as there are some that are getting quite a bit of traffic at Namedrive, yet are earning jackshit.

I just wish there were more hours in the day, so I can actually get this done - rather than thinking about getting this done.

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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

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I have a few sites with 200 or so pages .. hardly junk! .. still got booted down the rankings with the rest though.

Google is even tougher, especially for english content. Seems taht the only way to rank is to use an old name with plenty of backlinks, e.g. 5 years old. Or another way, i've seen people do it is to buy domains with good pr and link back.

That's why alternative extensions is losing value, domains no longer get a lot of SE preferential rank based on keywords. We're going back to the 90s when domains are sold on branding -> dot com.

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Google is even tougher, especially for english content. Seems taht the only way to rank is to use an old name with plenty of backlinks, e.g. 5 years old. Or another way, i've seen people do it is to buy domains with good pr and link back.

That's why alternative extensions is losing value, domains no longer get a lot of SE preferential rank based on keywords. We're going back to the 90s when domains are sold on branding -> dot com.
1 year of stats for the crappiest extension in the book .. .ws



Nothing fantastic but not bad .. wouldn't you agree?

Amazing what a little effort will do.

Currently sits at position 286 on Yahoo Japan out of 20,900,000 results (Use to sit much higher before the algo changed)
Has 184 pages indexed on Yahoo Japan

Surprisingingly .. has 288 pages indexed on Google.com
Sits at position 213 out of a possible 1,110,000 results

(Note: All results are searched without quotes, just the domain without extension)

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1 year of stats for the crappiest extension in the book .. .ws


nice, how much did it get last 1 mth?
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Old 27th March 2008, 06:15 AM
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Re: Your Japanese minisite performance?

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Thats why I was saying my earnings / visits had started to creep up after we all got booted to the arsehole of nowhere during the algo change
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