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Old 29th March 2008, 04:42 AM
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Namedrive - China

Parked pages at Namedrive can't be reached from China at the moment? Can anyone confirm this.
Been that way for the nearly the last month for me.
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Re: Namedrive - China

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Parked pages at Namedrive can't be reached from China at the moment? Can anyone confirm this.
Been that way for the nearly the last month for me.
Yes, just try, can't reach the site.

This is not new, ND could not be reached some 5 months ago and before.
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Old 29th March 2008, 05:27 AM
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Re: Namedrive - China

Yes, indeed blocked unfortunately.

Doesn't help much in getting a feel for visitor stats for Chinese domains
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Re: Namedrive - China

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Re: Namedrive - China

ok, switch back to SC, damn, how much did i lose???
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Old 29th March 2008, 06:18 AM
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Re: Namedrive - China

Thought so, was getting great traffic mid-end of last month (namedrive pages were loading fine for a while around this time if i remember correctly), and this month dried up quite a bit in comparison.
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Re: Namedrive - China

Could just be timing out. Site has been pretty slow. It will be worse from there!
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Re: Namedrive - China

From Singapore it takes a looong time for the site to load .. it does load eventually .. or times out and I have to try again
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Re: Namedrive - China

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From Singapore it takes a looong time for the site to load .. it does load eventually .. or times out and I have to try again

ND servers are overloaded, always timeout, that's why i proposed page caching. They can increase their capacity 50 times just by caching.

Namedriver around?

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ND servers are overloaded, always timeout, that's why i proposed page caching. They can increase their capacity 50 times just by caching.

Namedriver around?

People who don't understand enterprise systems architecture shouldn't make architectural proposals. You know just enough of the terminology to sound knowledgeable, which is dangerous in the case that someone would actually be foolish enough to listen to you.


Stick to economy writing :-)

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Old 29th March 2008, 10:21 AM
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Re: Namedrive - China

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People who don't understand enterprise systems architecture shouldn't make architectural proposals. You know just enough of the terminology to sound knowledgeable, which is dangerous in the case that someone would actually be foolish enough to listen to you.


Stick to economy writing :-)

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i know, the correct way is to optimize the query, database or increase hardware capacity, all this requires money. What if they don't have the budget for doing all this?

If they cache just 9 pages out of 10 requests, they can save a lot of cpu power. They can target their caching on high traffic names, names, for example, names that get more than 50 views a day. Lower traffic names will continue to be drawn from the database, without caching.

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Re: Namedrive - China

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i know, the correct way is to optimize the query, database or increase hardware capacity, all this requires money. What if they don't have the budget for doing all this?

If they cache just 9 pages out of 10 requests, they can save a lot of cpu power.

The webserver for the parking interface at http://namedrive.com/member is currently at IP address 216.8.177.27.

The webserver for the parked domains is currently at IP address 216.8.177.26, which may be a load balancer...


Caching pages for the parking interface script won't have anything to do with the parked domains, as they are on physically seperate webservers. At least this is true if you believe that the two systems do not share the same backend database, which is what ND implied. However, they do need to share data at some point - clicks and visits on parked domains need to be inserted into the parking stats database which is what is queried when you use the parking interface.

My guess is that caching front-end scripts won't help this problem at all - they now have a couple million rows in the database tables and are running into limits of a cheap upfront database design. I can't prove that they are using MySQL, but it sure feels like it. No amount of front-end workarounds are going to solve the core design problems inside of MySQL itself - it's not a real RDBMS.

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Re: Namedrive - China

Thanks. I mean partial caching of their parked domains, if this is possible at all. I've encountered numerous ocassions when their parked domains are slow to load, if they load at all. And i don't check often. I think i lose at least 10% of revenue from slow loading of parked pages.

Even if the content, keywords are partially cached, I know that they still must write clicks and views to some database.

As for their slow backend, it's fine with me, what i do is to multi-task, while their pages load, i do something else.

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Caching pages for the parking interface script won't have anything to do with the parked domains, as they are on physically seperate webservers. However, they do need to share data at some point - clicks and visits on parked domains need to be inserted into the parking stats database which is what is queried when you use the parking interface..

Well, then they got an enormous problem which can only be solved by spending money. A migration will be expensive and a big headache.

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My guess is that caching front-end scripts won't help this problem at all - they now have a couple million rows in the database tables and are running into limits of a cheap upfront database design. I can't prove that they are using MySQL, but it sure feels like it. No amount of front-end workarounds are going to solve the core design problems inside of MySQL itself - it's not a real RDBMS.

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Re: Namedrive - China

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Well, then they got an enormous problem which can only be solved by spending money. A migration will be expensive.
Out of compassion, I really hope they're not using MySQL.

Some lessons are hard learned. The MySQL one is hard learned every day by thousands of enterprises around the world. MySQL is getting better, but has very little chance of ever catching up with Postgres / Oracle in terms of reliability and scalability.

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Re: Namedrive - China

What's the best China parking now-a-days?
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BTW, this forum itself is a prime example of just how unreliable MySQL really is.

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What's the best China parking now-a-days?
Also interested what parking everyone else is using for Chinese domains seeing as namedrive is inaccessible to the majority of the Chinese market (for simplified anyway).
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