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Old 28th March 2006, 07:18 PM
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I'm so mad......

I am new to IDNs and I was very excited to purchase some. I thought of some and tried to purchase them last night. But the order did not work then today I talked to the company and ask them why and they said you can't buy a domain in another language thats already a taken domain in english.

How are you guys getting these domains? I'm so maddddd

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Old 28th March 2006, 07:22 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

Fwarrrp!

Sounds like you need to try a different registrar!
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Old 28th March 2006, 07:25 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

hmm i have had similar trouble but i think it was because the name was taking in another form what type names did u try?
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Re: I'm so mad......

Is it just the registrar?
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Re: I'm so mad......

What registrar are you using? They don't seem to have a clue.

The only common problem I know of is Chinese variants. If a name is registered in Simplified Chinese and you try to register the Traditional Chinese name it will not go through (although the Traditional name will appear as available).
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Old 28th March 2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

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and they said you can't buy a domain in another language thats already a taken domain in english.

Think about it: does the above statement make any sense?

Try: domainsite . com and see what happens.
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Re: I'm so mad......

I used domainsite.com but they said if its in english can't be done in another language.
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Old 28th March 2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

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Is it just the registrar?
Could be. I use enom.com for IDNs. Others here use domainsite.com.
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Old 28th March 2006, 07:42 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

Does this problem have to do with variants?
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Old 28th March 2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

Are you trying to register names that LOOK like english using cyrillic characters?

That's all I can come with.
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Re: I'm so mad......

I tried to register something like 网.com in chinese simplified but I guess its too close to chinese traditional or another chinese domain.
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Re: I'm so mad......

網.com is taken, so you can't get the simplified version either.

Those error msgs should really be changed to something that makes sense.
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Re: I'm so mad......

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If a name is registered in Simplified Chinese and you try to register the Traditional Chinese name it will not go through (although the Traditional name will appear as available - it is not).
Or vice versa.
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Old 28th March 2006, 09:11 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

Here is the Deal , some names are Blocked , Reserved , or Regd already in simplied or Traditional chinese , all that talk about the ascii words is a False Statement
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Re: I'm so mad......

I tried buying a Japanese domain and everything went okay. But for the chinese doamains they need to fix it so you know what is really available.

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Re: I'm so mad......

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I tried buying a Japanese domain and everything went okay. But for the chinese doamains they need to fix it so you know what is really available.

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Your basically stuffed because the block is at the registry. For the registrar to check availability they would have to mirror the mapping and make two separate enquiries because Verisign doesn't invoke the mapping until after the order is placed, then they turn around and say sorry!
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Re: I'm so mad......

Yes, you're correct.

The com/net Registry's "check" command need as extra return code "yes it's available, but don't get your hopes up because it's blocked due to the variant issue".

The Registrars that bill you BEFORE they attempt registration are the ones that cause the most frustration.

Especially if you do a bulk purchase and they kill it beacuse ONE domain failed.
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Old 28th March 2006, 10:54 PM
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Re: I'm so mad......

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Yes, you're correct.

The com/net Registry's "check" command need as extra return code "yes it's available, but don't get your hopes up because it's blocked due to the variant issue".

The Registrars that bill you BEFORE they attempt registration are the ones that cause the most frustration.

Especially if you do a bulk purchase and they kill it beacuse ONE domain failed.

The best thing to do is take advatage of domainsite's Credit system, you can add money into a credit account that way when stuff likes this happens the money doesnt get cought up in any piplelines
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Re: I'm so mad......

Sightly tangental, but some discussions outlining the "same character look as English" problem...

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/...es/007556.html

http://www.proper.com/lookit/archives/000302.html
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