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Breaking: IDNs in .SU. Comming soon...

Everyone who has domains registered thrue nic.ru received this letter:

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---------------------------- English ----------------------------------
THIS INFORMATION IS OFFERED FOR YOUR ACQUAINTANCE
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Dear Madam/Sir,

Since April, 28, 2008 according to the decision for The Foundation of
Internet Development, SU top level domain Administrator restrictions
for registration domain names with prefix xn-- are canceled.
It allows .SU Russian IDN registration.


Since April, 15, 2008 RU-CENTER takes the pre-orders for .SU Russian IDNs.

If you apply for a domain and your application is the only one, .SU Russian
IDN will be yours after April, 28 for 23.6 USD. If RU-CENTER receives more
than one pre-order, the auction will be held between the applicants.

According to the above since April, 15, 2008
The new Regulations for the .SU Russian IDN pre-registration service
is accepted
(Regulations 1/11-2 in Russian)

The following documents are changed:
List of rendered services (Addendum 1 to the Service Agreement)
Pricing scheme (Addendum 2 to the Service Agreement)

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RU-CENTER Administrative Group
e-mail: ru-cont@nic.ru
phones: +7 495 737-0601
fax: +7 495 737-0602
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Wasn't SU supposed to be retired?

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RU--2008

Завершился 12-й Российский Интернет-Форум ({ РИФ 2008 ). Closing 12 - and Russian Internet Forum (RIF (2008). Организатором РИФа выступил Региональный общественный Центр интернет-технологий ( РОЦИТ ), патронат форуму оказывало Федеральное агентство по печати и массовым коммуникация , поддержку - Министерство информационных технологий и связи РФ . Organizer RIFa made by the Regional Public Center of Internet technologies (ROCIT), the forum provided patronage to the Federal Agency for Press and Mass Communications, support - The Ministry of Information Technology and Communications of the Russian Federation. Компания RU-CENTER традиционно выступила в роли организационного партнера и официального регистратора этого крупного события российской интернет-отрасли. The company RU-CENTER traditionally addressed the role of institutional partner and the official registrar of the major events of the Russian Internet industry.

Специалисты RU-CENTER стали участниками 7 секций форума. Specialists RU-CENTER become parties to sections 7 forum. Темы трех семинаров были непосредственно связаны с доменной проблематикой. Topics three workshops were directly linked to the blast area. Один из них, « Доменные сервисы Рунета », поставил перед участниками несколько важных вопросов: необходима ли многолетняя регистрация в домене RU; нужны ли новые инструменты для регулирования деятельности регистраторов; должен ли перенос доменов от одного регистратора к другому стоить денег. One of them, "Domain services Runeta", the participants raised several important issues: whether multi-domain registration RU; whether new tools are needed to regulate the activities of registrars; whether transfers from one domain to another registrar cost money.

RU-CENTER последовательно выступает за многолетнюю регистрацию: возможность зарезервировать домен на несколько лет вперед, по мнению специалистов компании, сможет решить проблему с забывчивостью пользователей, а также некоторыми сетевыми преступлениями. RU-CENTER consistently advocated a multi-year registration: the opportunity to reserve a domain for a few years to come, according to the company, will be able to solve the problem with forgetting users, as well as some of the network crimes.

По инициативе RU-CENTER на форуме обсуждалась идея разработки « Этического кодекса регистратора ». At the initiative of RU-CENTER at the forum discussed the idea of a "Code of Ethics" registrar. По словам Андрея Воробьева , директора PR-департамента, «инициатива по созданию такого кодекса основана на опыте европейских регистраторов»: «Может быть, они не так эффективны, как хотелось бы; однако, сам факт их появления - это значительный шаг в сторону эффективного саморегулирования столь масштабной отрасли». According to Andrey Vorobiev, Director PR-department, "an initiative to create such a code based on the experience of European registrars": "Maybe they are not as effective as it should be, but the very fact of their appearance - a significant step towards effective self-regulation so massive industry. "

Мысли о саморегулировании в доменной отрасли лежат на поверхности. Thoughts of self blast in the industry lie on the surface. В домене RU есть лишь высшая мера наказания для нерадивых регистраторов - аннулирование аккредитации, которая еще ни разу за всю историю не была применена, более того отсутствует механизм подобного аннулирования. In RU domain is only capital punishment for negligent registrars - the revocation of accreditation, which has never in history has not been applied, in fact there is no mechanism such revocation. Стоит отметить, что к идее этического кодекса участники рынка отнеслись довольно прохладно. It is noteworthy that the idea of an ethical code of market participants reacted quite cool.

По вопросу доменного трансфера Андрей Воробьев высказался в пользу платного переноса доменов от регистратора к регистратору, потому что «пользователи хотят регистрировать там, где дешевле, и переносить туда, где надежнее». On the issue of transfer of domain Andrei Vorobyov spoke in favor of paid transfer of the domain registrar to registrar because "users wish to register where cheap, and move to where reliable."

Участники секции « Вторичный рынок доменов » попытались установить принципиальные различия вторичного рынка доменов в gTLD и в зонах RU-SU, а также определить возможные пути развития вторичного рынка доменов в России. Илья Поярков , представлявший на этой секции домейнеров, рассказал о позитивных изменениях, который произошли на вторичном рынке доменов в Рунете за последнее время. Participants section "Secondary Market Domain" fundamental differences attempted to establish a secondary market in the gTLD domains, and in zones of RU-SU, and to identify possible ways of development of a secondary market domains in Russia. Ilya Poyarkov, representing this section domeynerov, described the positive developments that occurred in the secondary market domains in Runet in the recent past. Когда он пришел в этот бизнес, не было ни площадок для общения, ни аукционов, ни сервисов перехвата. When he came into this business, there was not a site for communication, no auctions, no services interception. Сейчас самая существенная проблема - трансфер доменов. Now the most significant problem - transfer domains. Так, к нему поступает немало предложений продать то или иное имя за 100-200 долларов, но он вынужден отказывать, ведь для оформления придется ехать в офис регистратора. So, it comes a lot of offers to sell any name for 100-200 dollars, but he had refused, because for registration would have to go to the registrar office.

О непростой ситуации с сервисом whois вспоминали на секции « Персональные данные в Интернете. About a difficult situation with the service whois remembered for the section "Personal data on the Internet. Что важнее: анонимность или безопасность?.. » Так, российское законодательство требует предоставить администраторам доменов право скрывать свои персональные данные, в ICANN вопрос об «анонимизации» данных whois-сервиса остается открытым. Which is more important: the safety or anonymity? .. "For example, Russian legislation requires domain administrators to provide the right to hide their personal data to ICANN on" tags "whois data service remains open. В феврале у клиентов RU-CENTER появилась возможность выставлять private person вместо имени и фамилии, аналогичной функцией оснастили свои панели и другие регистраторы. In February client RU-CENTER an opportunity to expose private person instead of first and last name, a similar function equipped its panels and other registrars.

Мастер-класс RU-CENTER и « 1С-Битрикc » « Компетентно о сайтостроении » рассказал начинающему «разработчику», как создать собственный сайт: с чего начинать, как продвигать и поддерживать ресурс. Master Class RU-CENTER and "S-1 Bitrick c" "Kompetentno of Robotics" described "developer" beginner how to build your own site: where to start, how to promote and sustain the resource. Так же на секции RU-CENTER представил новый сервис « Парковка доменов ». Also at the Section RU-CENTER introduced a new service domains "Parking".

Участниками партнерского семинара RU-CENTER и радиостанции « Голос России » « Рунет за пределами RU » стали представители зарубежных русскоязычных порталов. Participants in the seminar partnership RU-CENTER and radio "Voice of Russia" "Runet outside RU" were the representatives of the Russian-speaking foreign portals. «Русский язык активно проникает в международную интернет-среду», - поделились они своими впечатлениями, цифрами и фактами. "The Russian language is actively enter the international online environment" - they shared their impressions, the figures and facts. Заодно всплыла и тема русскоязычных доменов. At the same time, and the topic came up with English domains. «В кириллических доменах буква Ё сможет присутствовать, как и символы любых других национальных алфавитов, - рассказал Андрей Воробьев. "In the Cyrillic letter E domains will be able to attend, as any other characters, and language - Andrei Vorobyov told. - В конце апреля такие домены можно будет зарегистрировать в зоне SU». -- In late April, these domains can be registered in the zone SU ".

На заключительном этапе работы форума была принята Итоговая резолюция РИФ-2008 . At the end of the forum adopted a resolution Cumulative RIF-2008. В нее вошли самые яркие идеи участников, призванные стимулировать развитие Рунета. It was composed of the brightest ideas of the participants to encourage the development of Runet. Текст Резолюции после доработок и уточнений будет опубликован на сайте www.rif.ru. Text of Resolution after additions and clarifications will be published on the website www.rif.ru.

Более подробно доменные итоги РИФ 2008 изложены в обзоре Федора Смирнова «Гамлетовские вопросы доменного РИФа» . More blast outcome RIF 2008 outlined in the review of Fedora Smirnova "Gamletovskie RIFa domain issues."

С презентациями докладчиков можно ознакомиться здесь: http://2008.rif.ru/program/ Presentations speakers can be found here: http://2008.rif.ru/program/

Подробный фоторепортаж здесь: http://2008.rif.ru/photo/ A detailed photo essay here: http://2008.rif.ru/photo/
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A political maneouvre, methinks.
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Re: Breaking: IDNs in .SU. Comming soon...

Anyway, it is happening. The "pilot project" (.SU) is started.
.RU (.РФ or whatever it will become) is next. IDN will become more popular in Russia.

I wonder how fast the best keywords will be registered in that extention
and how many IDNF-members will apply for them.
I must admit: it is tempting to apply for good keywords... even in .SU.
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A political maneouvre, methinks.
Wrong, it is a marketing manoeuvre. Note that the Generics are going to get auctioned. You can expect to see the same happen with dot RU. Obviously, they are trying to pump up prices in advance of the dot RU launch.

My advice for those of you thinking of picking up a few dot RUs is to put the house on the market. Actually, if any of you followed my advice from a couple of years ago about selling you house and moving the family into a trailer park to free up capital for IDN, then you would be long in Spades by now!
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No, it's a political manoeuvre because .su is due to be closed down soon.
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Who can translate this for me, please?

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No, it's a political manoeuvre because .su is due to be closed down soon.
It would not be closed. It is decided for now as I know.
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Mean you have a good Bridge hand, or perhaps domain portfolio.
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There are many posts on russian domain forums that domainers will reg IDNs in .SU. Shocked. They was always against IDNs in general.
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There are many posts on russian domain forums that domainers will reg IDNs in .SU. Shocked. They was always against IDNs in general.

They were only against IDN.COM and IDN.NET, it seems.

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Domainers are generally strongly in favour of any domains that they have the opportunity to register in good keywords, and largely against those where they feel excluded!
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