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Old 30th March 2006, 05:04 PM
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

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Yes, did you receive that email from Candy? What's going on? I saw a few familiar emails, including jobcollect. How did jobcollect get onto SC so quickly? I think there's really no need to hide this way - it's not as though you have done something illegal, etc.
Yes, I did. How do you know jobcollect is there?

As I told you before, their service for people outside China may not last long if they take too many foreign customers.

But it doesnt matter to me too much because I park my traffic domains at other place getting more revenue than SC.
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Yes, I did. How do you know jobcollect is there?

As I told you before, their service for people outside China may not last long if they take too many foreign customers.

The email from Candy, Dave and Sal email addresses were inside as well, the rest i can't identify the rest. Anyway, this email is really a security breach by showing everyone in the mailing list.

"wel....." <wel....@gmail.....>, "......." <.........@jobcollect.....>, "joshua....." <joshua.....@.......com>, "dchir...." <dchir......@.....harvard......>, "jams......." <jams......@b.....ru>, "jams....." <jams.....@b....ru>, "sal" <sal@......local.....>, "david" <david@p......net>, "admin" <admin@long.....com>

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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

I see blast and Giant there too.

Somebody tell Candy about BCC!
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The email from Candy, Dave and Sal email addresses were inside as well, the rest i can't identify the rest. Anyway, this email is really a security breach by showing everyone in the mailing list.

"wel....." <wel....@gmail.....>, "......." <.........@jobcollect.....>, "joshua....." <joshua.....@.......com>, "dchir...." <dchir......@.....harvard......>, "jams......." <jams......@b.....ru>, "jams....." <jams.....@b....ru>, "sal" <sal@......local.....>, "david" <david@p......net>, "admin" <admin@long.....com>
They did not show my ID because I used SC's admin ID. jobcollect registered just 2 days ago after you put the message at this forum. I think it's very close to the end of this service now.
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Why is it at the end of service? Is it because they do not want foreigners?
Why would that be?
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I see blast and Giant there too.

Somebody tell Candy about BCC!
my ID admin@longzhi is a testing account only before this service went live. My real account with them is not here.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

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Why is it at the end of service? Is it because they do not want foreigners?
Why would that be?
My guess is that expatriation of funds is probably frowned upon.

Most capital gains within China are restricted in many ways to retain foreign investment for as long as possible.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

I c.

But their service still requires Chinese banks, in other words, they give foreigners no special service.

In addition, foreigners reg .cn, so in the sense money flowed in.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

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My guess is that expatriation of funds is probably frowned upon.

Most capital gains within China are restricted in many ways to retain foreign investment for as long as possible.

Not true, i send tens of thousands of dollars out of China every few mths, there's no such restriction if you know how to do it. China is so big, they can't control everything.
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Why is it at the end of service? Is it because they do not want foreigners?
Why would that be?
They are doing a service that nobody ever tried before, paying out money to overseas. This service is better done in a quiet way. From 1 customer, then 2, then 4.... Just imagine if someone put another thread at DNF, that kind of noise will no doubt kill this service.
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They are doing a service that nobody ever tried before, paying out money to overseas. This service is better done in a quiet way. From 1 customer, then 2, then 4.... Just imagine if someone put another thread at DNF, that kind of noise will no doubt kill this service.

Whenever a Chinese consumer buys a product from amazon.com or ebay.com using credit card, money is paid overseas.

Well, anyone who knows chinese will know the paper can't cover fire logic. If it's not legal, people won't do it, there must be a loophole in law or it is legally permissible.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

Buying something off eBay from within China is not quite the same as foreigners generating capital gains within China and then expatriating the funds.

I hope it stays open. I'm just tickled to see real traffic!
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

Since the service only pays to Chinese banks, the foreigners will have to figure out how to expatriate the money himself. In other words, the service is just the same service offered to Chinese, but in English.

So I don't think Silverclicks needs to worry about breaking any law... Just my guess
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Buying something off eBay from within China is not quite the same as foreigners generating capital gains within China and then expatriating the revenue.

PPC is basically advertising services - we're not selling any capital goods. Google.cn is making good money in China and these go to the US company. Chinese advertiser ads also appear on foreign adsense websites if they are in Chinese. Or am i not seeing the correct picture?
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PPC is basically advertising services - we're not selling any capital goods. Google.cn is making good money in China and these go to the US company. Chinese advertiser ads also appear on foreign adsense websites if they are in Chinese. Or am i not seeing the correct picture?

Google.cn does indeed make money for their parent company -- but they pay Chinese taxes for the privilege.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

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Whenever a Chinese consumer buys a product from amazon.com or ebay.com using credit card, money is paid overseas.

Well, anyone who knows chinese will know the paper can't cover fire logic. If it's not legal, people won't do it, there must be a loophole in law or it is legally permissible.
Yes, you are right here. You can do a lot of things in China if you know how to take advantage of these loopholes, but the trick is you have to do it quietly, too much publicity will kill even very legal business.

I have followed the progress of SC since day 1. I really want them to succeed and they are doing very good job. I park some of my domains at SC, but the good ones are at other ads companies, they are not PPC type company. I actually buy Chinse traffic for these companies.
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Google.cn does indeed make money for their parent company -- but they pay Chinese taxes for the privilege.

The taxes will have to be paid by SC because they are importing the service from overseas, if i'm not mistaken.

I think China does have an image problem in America - i think that's the issue.

Many things have changed over the past 5 years, even Chinese expatriates that left the country for a few years do not have the full picture. All these epo-c-he times, etc, other stuff, very misleading.

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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

Which companies currently serve Chinese ad inventory?

Yahoo? Google? Baidu? Sina? Sohu? Netease?
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

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Since the service only pays to Chinese banks, the foreigners will have to figure out how to expatriate the money himself. In other words, the service is just the same service offered to Chinese, but in English.

So I don't think Silverclicks needs to worry about breaking any law... Just my guess

I'm also confused, can't understand the risk they are facing.
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Re: Virtually 100% of type-in traffic for Chinese domains is from China.

Baidu > Google > Yahoo

I remember reading also about local advertising is kicking off in China (by Sina or Sohu), with a few test cities, Chengdu etc.

I just found another parking service in China, serving Chinese ads:
http://club.reddns.com/parking.php

Will try them and c how it goes.
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