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Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

I think everyone here know Dave ... he is the first to be interviewed as he has over 500 arabic IDN in his portfolio .. Thanks a lot david ...


مقابلة مع ديفيد ريكسون اشهر اللاعبون في سوق النطاقات الاي دي ان ورأيه في النطاقات العربية
اقرأ قصته بالكامل وخبرته مع النطاقات العربية وايضا نصائحه للداخلين الجدد
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http://arabic-idns.blogspot.com/2006...ost.html#links
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

G maybe you could translate it for us. Thanks.
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

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I think everyone here know Dave ... he is the first to be interviewed as he has over 500 arabic IDN in his portfolio .. Thanks a lot david ...


مقابلة مع ديفيد ريكسون اشهر اللاعبون في سوق النطاقات الاي دي ان ورأيه في النطاقات العربية
اقرأ قصته بالكامل وخبرته مع النطاقات العربية وايضا نصائحه للداخلين الجدد
حصريا فقط علي البلوجر نطاق

http://arabic-idns.blogspot.com/2006...ost.html#links
To help give you a bit of a boost there, I have forwarded our entire portfolio to you for a limited period.
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

Yea, a translation might be of help.

How many people here read/understand Arabic?
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

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Yea, a translation might be of help.

How many people here read/understand Arabic?
I am sure G can manage that as it has basically been translated from English in the first place.:p
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

David Wrixon, Aged 46, Keighley, West Yorkshire, UK.
Civil/Structural Engineer by training. Divorced but with new partner Lenka from Czech Republic.

Domains are owned by Chinese Domains Ltd, which is jointly owned with my partner Jane, although I hold a controlling stake.

I witnessed a sale of Turkish IDN on SEDO which was given as the Punycode and ask the Domainguru what it was. I quickly realised the real potential was China and the rest of Asia and immediately realised that all you needed was the characters and you could reg them. It was more laborous in those days because at that time I had yet to convince Domainsite to incorporate the Punycode converter into their site. I was already with Domainsite as even without this additional functionality I felt the provided the best service on the web at that time. Jane came back into my life after about a 25 year absence, and we quickly got organised and became partners. She was a huge inspiration to me as at the time she seemed to be the only one that was capable of understanding my vision.

We started off quite naively, using and online dictionary. We played around with a few but quickly settled on MDGB. We had no idea of what was available as on the surface of things we had missed the boat by about 2 years. It was difficult to start with as we did not understand the language structures and we started registering stuff that you would consider good in English. It was untill later the we realised what was really out there, so much stuff was dropping you just could not seem to pick it up quick enough. Later we got into Drops. Our first Chinese from memory were animal names. Arabic was the next language we invested in as it was the next biggest in terms of speakers for a language where we felt IDN had a real relevancy. I think Arabic will yet prove to be one of our more important portfolios but the market in Arabic domains has yet to develop. Because of lack of understanding of Arabic we initially invested in Single Isolated Arabic Forms and translations from Ajeeb. The latter was not such a clever idea, as many of the translation were too classical and not suitable for the internet age. The Isolated forms were bought primarily due to our lack of language skills. These, however, I believe will eventually prove to be the most valuable. We are about 3 letter short of the full set.

We own over 3200 at present. At last count we have 429 Arabic names, but we have about 180 in the process of dropping. The drops are generally traditional forms with low Google Scores. May well end up dropping some we should have kept, but we play a percentages game. By registering incorrectly our initial registration cost effectively rises from $8 to neare $12, still very manageable.

Google is a very good means of confirming common useage. Later Overture came along with support for Unicode but we had already bought most of our name by then. Frankly we didn't always worry about translations if we had good Google or Overture, working on the principle that the meanings would become apparent later. Some of Arabic could well be Farsi.

I have no real ambitions to own more Arabic names that we currently do infact it might be nice to see a few go to a good home.

The market in Arabic IDNs is more or less dormant at the moment. The first wave of investors have picked up most of the primary terms and are now waiting for the market to develop. There are still hundreds of thousands of really good term out there that only a true Arabic speaker could know, but most the of stuff that is going to be worth 7 or even 8 figures in $US has already gone. Not that that means the opportunities are not there. Exploiting the market now will require registering larger numbers of sencondary terms that will still yeild very substantial returns, or picking up good terms in the secondary market. I think you could still get more or less what you want for around $10k, but by next year these terms will be beyond the reach of all but the super rich. I myself might be prepared to let a few really decent terms go to get the market moving, but by next year I would not anticipated being in the market at all, at least not as a seller......

.......IDN.IDN which are really only IDN.com will be the future of Asia. They will be become as important if not sometimes more important than ASCII.com. The potential value of these domains is unimaginable to most. That is why it has been possible to obtain so many so cheapily.

For a new entrant into the market with local knowledge, my advice would be buy City domains with the view to setting up online Directories of service. If you have Cairo.com you can charge every business in Cairo for putting a link on your website. OK, not all will subscibe, but those that do will benefit enourmously from their advertising investment, for which they will renumerate you handsomely. One such domain could garantee an income for life!

Any hints. Yes just this:

Go to www.idnforums.com and get the full lowdown on what is going on here. Get rich before someone else steals you lunch!

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To help give you a bit of a boost there, I have forwarded our entire portfolio to you for a limited period.
thanks dave .... I will send you a little gift inexchange... check your pm
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

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thanks dave .... I will send you a little gift inexchange... check your pm
No worries, you are doing a great job out there!
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

Thanks for this 'interview'

two questions:

- wenn did they start to register arabic idn's, yesterday? 18 months ago many golden arabic IDN where free and they are now owned by www.arabicdomainnames.net

- regarding www.القاهرة.com, if it is a golden one , why do they parked it to a non idn parking specialist (arabic letters do not appear) instead of parking it like we did with عربي.com where arabic letters are visible.

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Thanks for this 'interview'

two questions:

- wenn did they start to register arabic idn's, yesterday? 18 months ago many golden arabic IDN where free and they are now owned by www.arabicdomainnames.net

- regarding www.القاهرة.com, if it is a golden one , why do they parked it to a non idn parking specialist (arabic letters do not appear) instead of parking it like we did with عربي.com where arabic letters are visible.

Ciao DABSI
Chinese Domains Ltd started collecting Arabic domains about 2 years ago.

In terms of parking, we interested primarily in measuring the traffic and evaluating the performance of PPC parking services. We are not primarily interested in selling domains, but do auction a few of a part of our portfolio management, and for the marketing purposed.

We actually currently have our Arabic Domains pointed a G's Blogg, as having seen what a good job he is doing with IDN at the moment we feel that for it would be beneficial to send the traffic there for the time being.
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Re: Interview with David Dwrixon and his views about arabic IDN market

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Chinese Domains Ltd started collecting Arabic domains about 2 years ago.

In terms of parking, we interested primarily in measuring the traffic and evaluating the performance of PPC parking services. We are not primarily interested in selling domains, but do auction a few of a part of our portfolio management, and for the marketing purposed.

We actually currently have our Arabic Domains pointed a G's Blogg, as having seen what a good job he is doing with IDN at the moment we feel that for it would be beneficial to send the traffic there for the time being.

You should really park your names than direct to forums - i just got an Arabic name with revenue rising gradually after parking for a few weeks. At last count, it earned $35 last week, the bulk came yesterday with $12. I'm still trying to figure out why the name earned so much.

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You should really park your names than direct to forums - i just got an Arabic name with revenue rising gradually after parking for a few weeks. At last count, it earned $35 last week, the bulk came yesterday with $12. I'm still trying to figure out why the name earned so much.
Yes, I have had a few Mega Clicks. One Arabic from Asia over $3, but think about it. Give G a bit of traffic for a few weeks and get the IDN message buzzing around the Middle East and how much traffic might everyone have next month? Worth a try, also G might then get to earn a bit off his Adsense or whatever he finally gets organised. This is not a Zero sum game.

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Yes, I have had a few Mega Clicks. One Arabic from Asia over $3, but think about it. Give G a bit of traffic for a few weeks and get the IDN message buzzing around the Middle East and how much traffic might everyone have next month? Worth a try, also G might then get to earn a bit off his Adsense or whatever he finally gets organised. This is not a Zero sum game.

Best Regards
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Yes, i see what you mean. It's a one-time promotion effort. I've also been wondering what can be done to realize the values of Arabic domains.

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