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Old 18th October 2008, 07:24 PM
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Re: Why don't you report?!

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This is infinitely impossible for languages where there is no equivalent of C, O, and M or COM. There's no C, O, M or COM sounding word in Chinese, whatsoever, and in Japanese, the kana COM (which is always expressed in the kana DOT COM) is not exactly a replacement.
Agreed. The pundits just keep beating the drum that "idn.idn" was eventually going to be brought forward and in their minds those were going to be the "real" idns. I remember them always referring to them as "REAL IDNs", yet when you showed them the DNAME aliasing for .com they shrugged it off as never going to happen.

It is still baffling to me that so few ascii domainers don't diversify and take a small risk on IDNs on hopes they do end up being a good investment. For what they buy some of their LLLL's for they could get some truly excellent generic single word IDNs. Most are not even willing to take the time to explore what is going on, but in the end that is their loss and they will have a long time to regret.
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It is still baffling to me that so few ascii domainers don't diversify and take a small risk on IDNs on hopes they do end up being a good investment. For what they buy some of their LLLL's for they could get some truly excellent generic single word IDNs. Most are not even willing to take the time to explore what is going on, but in the end that is their loss and they will have a long time to regret.
I am sure they are baffled as to why IDNers spend good money on generic IDN's when they could buy themselves a "quad premium" LLLL.

each to their own. You place your bet and spin the wheel.
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You place your bet and spin the wheel.
And this is the best table in town. Scary almost.
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I am sure they are baffled as to why IDNers spend good money on generic IDN's when they could buy themselves a "quad premium" LLLL. each to their own. You place your bet and spin the wheel.
You know...you are damn spot on. They are as sure their LLLL is going to make them a great ROI as we are sure we will see traffic and demand for idns. When you line up the + and - about each investment opportunity, there is just no comparison IMO.
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I am sure they are baffled as to why IDNers spend good money on generic IDN's when they could buy themselves a "quad premium" LLLL.

each to their own. You place your bet and spin the wheel.

Same, you can buy some 'AA' MBS bonds returning 8% a year, and it's darn good investment. lol
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I am trying to figure out who is greedy and who is fearful right now. ASCIIers or Idners?
It really matters not. What he is saying is that if you hold back from investing until you have proof of an excellent return, the opportunity will be long gone. Yes, I think it is very applicable to IDN right now, but it is equally applicable to all forms of investment.

Incidentally, I think his decision to go 100% into the US stock market will prove a train crash, but that is a big call when you are up against the sage. But then again, he is getting on a bit and perhaps getting a bit more risk adverse than he cares to admit.
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That is precisely right, and they are precisely wrong.

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Most of us lived and worked overseas for US corporations where we did not read or speak the languages in the countries we were working in. That is partly why IDNs were a bit of a no brainer...having been square on the other side of the language barrier. I spent most of my time in Greece, where even the alphabet was different and made it even more challenging. Once I got into reading the technical stuff (including RD at full steam arguing with the pundits at DNF) one only had to grasp that the technical side of IDN was indeed going to happen.

I never doubted that IDNs would be the first choice for internet addy's for the majority of people do not speak or read English....the question was how long until it actually was all going to happen and of course listening to the arguements of MANY people that continued to believe and tell others to hold out for "real" idns (idn.idn). They genuinely felt (and probably still feel) that idn.idn will in some way basically replace idn.com and hense .com etc would lose any value.
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New http://dnjournal.com/domainsales.htm report. Zero IDN sales.
My guess is that he simply isn't aware of the transaction.

I don't think he has any bias. He can't. If it was perceived that there were some bias in his reporting then his publication would lose credibility.
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I just got email from sedo that they sold my ascii domain for the asking price. I didn't even know I had any ascii left.
The best ones I sold in '99
I guess it's time to load up on more idn drek
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My guess is that he simply isn't aware of the transaction.

I don't think he has any bias. He can't. If it was perceived that there were some bias in his reporting then his publication would lose credibility.
There is no intentional bias, but the English speaking market gets researched. The Chinese market gets ignored unless it is specifically brought to his attention. I don't think you will find Duke hanging around Chinese Language forums but he does try to keep tabs on what happens around the main English Language forums.

Don't get me wrong, I think he does a good job. Even and excellent job, but it is unreasonable to expect DNJ or TRAFFICS or Moniker to serve the needs of the wider IDN community. It just ain't going to happen. But don't worry there will be Chinese, Russian and Arabic speakers who will step in and fill the void. Just not quite yet.
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I just got email from sedo that they sold my ascii domain for the asking price. I didn't even know I had any ascii left.
The best ones I sold in '99
I guess it's time to load up on more idn drek


'99 :o
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