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Old 2nd July 2009, 07:52 PM
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

BTW: How do you all find the new features? Usefull or not really?!

Moderators: Can this thread name be changed to "idn.bz" only? Thanks.
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

I like all the features Jose. I think you have done some really fine work there. Now that I know about the database I understand the tools behavior. I agree that some way to reset that would be nice. I think a Captcha would be a decent compromise.

I hate to ask for things when you have already done so much good work there but a whois on the .jp domains would be handy for me. It is always nice to check to see if a native speaker has any of the extensions.

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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

Dont trust translations! Country own culture maters a lot!

Great examples:

http://idn.bz/rate.php?keyword=xn--m...language=zh-CN
http://idn.bz/rate.php?keyword=dr%C3%BCcken&language=de

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BTW: Flick new add-on helps or what?
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

I refuse to pay Domainsite $25 for renewal, when name.com and others ask for $9.

I can't transfer the domain. Any ideas?
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

when did their renewals become $25? Did they increase it recently?
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I thought the renewals @ Domainsite was $8.88?
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look at the thread title.
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Re: idn.bz

ver 5.5 (Nov, 30th, 2010)

Added: .рф check for Russian names!
Added: Yandex trends link on Russian results
Added: Detailed translation link now with translation+term

Fixed: Zero Google search values
Fixed: Google.cn no longer. Redirected to com.hk just as Google does
Fixed: MDBG dictionary link encoding
Fixed: Google insights for search frame replace for Google trends. (only X-Frame-Options:SameOrigin)

FAQ: Getting "Invalid page size" on twitter results? Use any other browser than Firefox
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Re: idn.bz

Jose, really incredibly useful tool! At least for me.

I'm not sure if it's possible to implement, but some "terms" sound and are spelled the same in many languages ("мама" - same in Russian, Bulgarian, Belorussian, Ukrainian and other Slavic languages). I guess it affects the price of a domain if a term is used by different languages (more potential end user for a domain). So may be the information from Google's Insights (which mentions the country where a keyword gets the most searches from) would be useful?
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

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idn.bz is now doing more than 1000 queries a day and all this time not one single tiny donation was made, not one simple ad was clicked, not one single affiliate was choosen, no book was ever sold, ....
Which is why providing paid services, rather than free ones, is always a good idea.
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Jose, really incredibly useful tool! At least for me.

I'm not sure if it's possible to implement, but some "terms" sound and are spelled the same in many languages ("мама" - same in Russian, Bulgarian, Belorussian, Ukrainian and other Slavic languages). I guess it affects the price of a domain if a term is used by different languages (more potential end user for a domain). So may be the information from Google's Insights (which mentions the country where a keyword gets the most searches from) would be useful?
Thanks Arseny. Well, I already have that info, as you can see, for any top term, idn.bz shows the expected traffic from each country. Is is true however, that I don't take that into account when estimating the price. Anyway one of the best improvements I could do the the price estimation is past sales. (I am working on it). About the main language for a term, it is Google translate who decides that. (language detection)

I never looked much into the Google's Insights API as it doesn't have any absolute values, only relative values. BTW, did a search and couldn't find the API online?!
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Re: idn.bz ver. 3.0

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Which is why providing paid services, rather than free ones, is always a good idea.
Since I posted that, some honorable members in here have indeed made donations.

But yes, you might be right. Sooner or later I will have to implement some limits, like estibot does.
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Re: idn.bz

ver 5.6 (Dec, 21th, 2010)

Added: Google Book Search.
Changed: Drop Lists taken offline.

Note: Google Book Search is great for distinguish between Latin accented words, like Spanish words crédito x credito or musica x música, etc
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The site is fantastic.
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Re: idn.bz

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I have a few questions and need some advice about idn.bz. Is idn.bz a sufficient way to value an idn? I don't care about what the site says about dollar value, just the other stats. Does a higher rating mean the idn is more valuable? Does the CPC mean what it earns currently parked? Does traffic rating mean how many visitors are currently visiting that site? What stats matter the most? Please enlighten me on any information you can give.
Well, you can start here: http://idn.bz/faq.html

About the dollar value, the math is all there, the problem is the size of database where if feeds itself for data mining (not many previous sales on the db) But I am working on it and there will be some great news soon.

About the traffic stats, I can't reveal my sources, because I have never seen anyone using those stats before. One thing I can tell you, I get them from Google, and giving the recent events, they are indeed much more accurate than Google's own keyword tools: http://www.idnforums.com/forums/28546-[yoga]-com-japanese-2.html#post176468

Please reply on the idn.bz thread so that would help future users.
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idn.bz figures are what they are: just numbers.

There's more about valuation a domain then just numbers: like trends, regional interests, geo importance, etc.
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Re: idn.bz

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I think the ratings it provides were better before. Now it does not make sense for many names.

I just checked top ten for Chinese simplified. 性事(Sex) has a rating of 92.9547. But if you search 性, a better word for sex, IMO, the rating is less than 60. 性事 is not used very frequently in China, at least not so much to make its rating that high.

Another top ten example is 法(Law). The better translation of law is 法律. 法律.com was sold for a pretty good price at snapnames. 法 is good, but has multiple other meanings. It can be combined with other characters to give different meanings, like 算法 (algorithm), 办法(way, means).

Yet another top ten, 运动(Sports) with rating 92.68. The better translation for sports is 体育, but it has a rating of 89.68.

idn.bz is a great service. The statistics are very useful. Just be careful about the rating scores. Hopefully, it can keep improving and serve well for all idn domainers.
Thanks for your report. I have checked it myself and indeed it doesn't make sense. There's a problem with the exact matching algorithm. I will work on a fix.
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What can you tell me about the CPC amount and traffic stats? If a domain has $1.56-$2.12 CPC, does that mean its currently earning that amount? And if an IDN has 200-300 for its traffic stat, does that mean that many people are visiting that site in a given amount of time? So, the more CPC and traffic a site has, means its a more quality domain? Or no?
Yes, it means that's the CPC Google is giving me. Yes, it means that's the traffic Google is giving me. The bigger the CPC x traffic the better the domain. There was even a contest on that once: http://idnblog.com/2010/03/29/colorf...est-domainers/
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Re: idn.bz

Fixed. I can't believe this was wrong for so long. Ever since I started messing with Russian terms and converting them to lowercase. On the process I made it non-working for Chinese terms. Using mb_strtolower now.

You can see the difference now between 运动 and 体育!

About 性, there's not much I can do, as Google translates this to "Of".
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ver 5.7 (Feb, 26th, 2011)

Fixed: The exact match algoritm issue that was giving bad rates. (Thanks JamesZ!)
Fixed: Removed the .ws availabily check. All idn.ws are now restricted. Right, who cares anyway. Someone please inform Dynadot...

Changed : Whois links to Dynadot, since domaintools is now very limited and Dynadot is realtime

Changed : Reversed the languages on the detailed translation link
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