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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

Who's the French native speaker here?
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

French is my native language, and nobody would type l'amour or le marché.
take lemp3 it is still free...

People type hypermarché.com or automarché.com or marchéauxpuces.com (fleemarket) ; have a look on the top 100 french sites, none of them has le or a la in.

but make the registrars happy in registring much more useless names.
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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French is my native language, and nobody would type l'amour or le marché.
Please explain lemonde.fr and l-hotel.com?

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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

I have a french name with the definite article and it gets typeins.
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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The name is good for branding

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but you never can disagree with dave as he thinks he knows more than native language speakers! (or people who have taken the language for years)... I'm not just talking about this thread but other threads on IDNF as well. The number of domains you hold does not mean all of a sudden you have a PhD in the subject.
For Christ Sake's just sell one of your better names and go out and buy yourself a personality!
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

I think that's the microsoft word aprostrophe - you need to type it out in word, then copy it to your browser.
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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French is my native language, and nobody would type l'amour or le marché.
take lemp3 it is still free...

People type hypermarché.com or automarché.com or marchéauxpuces.com (fleemarket) ; have a look on the top 100 french sites, none of them has le or a la in.

but make the registrars happy in registring much more useless names.
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Well im not a native speaker and i respect youre opinion , but i dont think many people even know that it would be possible to type l'amour in ?
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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Well im not a native speaker and i respect youre opinion , but i dont think many people even know that it would be possible to type l'amour in ?
You can type in what you like, its just that the punycoder cannot encript the apostrophe.

All, I was was suggesting was before I was set about by the schizophrenic Rottweiler, is that a browser could be designed that would allow the non-permissible characters to be transformed into characters that the punycode encripter could manage. I am not quite sure which characters Blastfromthepast has dropped upon, but I guess, as this is his specialist area, he will have come up with the closests representations.
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

lemonde is an institution/newspaper

Of course articles are much more used in French than in English; we are talking hier about URL.

Sorry I use to give french lessons during my university time; I don't have to justify myself; take it a help and suggestion.

It seems that new comers are suddenly all specialist in chinese, japanese, arabic, and french. Some have collected 3000 names and are out of money, some takes lemonde as example for an entire language.

For sure, at meilleursnoms.com we are wrong, we did a big mistake, we are going to delete our 1100 names and replace them by lemachintruc.com

It remembers me some US tourists in Paris who thought Napoleon remains an Emperor in France...... This in this forum not different.

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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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lemonde is an institution/newspaper

Sorry I use to give french lessons during my university time; I don't have to justify myself; take it a help and suggestion.
Dabsi, I'm not asking you to justify, I just want to be clear as to when the article is used and when it is not used, in a title, in a URL. It is important to hear your opinion, as we can learn from a native speaker.

Others, please, if you aren't a native speaker, please don't post and start arguing. It doesn't help anyone learn and creates a bad atmosphere.

Hint: if ’ doesn't work for French articles in domain names, it works for some other languages. I'll leave it at that.

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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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lemonde is an institution/newspaper

Of course articles are much more used in French than in English; we are talking hier about URL.

Sorry I use to give french lessons during my university time; I don't have to justify myself; take it a help and suggestion.

It seems that new comers are suddenly all specialist in chinese, japanese, arabic, and french. Some have collected 3000 names and are out of money, some takes lemonde as example for an entire language.

For sure, at meilleursnoms.com we are wrong, we did a big mistake, we are going to delete our 1100 names and replace them by lemachintruc.com

It remembers me some US tourists in Paris who thought Napoleon remains an Emperor in France...... This in this forum not different.

take it easy

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Actually Dabsi, the only language I have ever professed to have any knowledge of is French and I am only investing in that because of what is available as drops. Yes, I do have over 3,000 names, but my income to date now exceeds my expenditure so my ineptide with languages does not seem to be the main determinate of my success or otherwise as a speculator.

As you have pointed out it is URLs we are talking about rather than written pros, so conventional languge experts probably wouldn't have a clue as to the rights and wrongs of what to use. Actually, there are no rights and wrongs apart from what is used, and what would be used if it were possible. As this an IDN site for the time being were are generally limited to conjecture about what might happen!

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Dabsi, I'm not asking you to justify, I just want to be clear as to when the article is used and when it is not used, in a title, in a URL. It is important to hear your opinion, as we can learn from a native speaker.

Others, please, if you aren't a native speaker, please don't post and start arguing. It doesn't help anyone learn and creates a bad atmosphere.

Hint: if ’ doesn't work for French articles in domain names, it works for some other languages. I'll leave it at that.
For your information I wasn't even referring to the linguistics I was talking about whether apostrophes would encode. The arabic apostrophe like all the other punctation marks is reversed and is therefore is not a prohibited character like the normal one, the same is true of the question mark!

If expressing my opinion on such matters is causing bad feeling, then I suggest that those who are offended, crawl back whence they came!

If there is bad feeling with Dabsi, I am not sure where it has come from apart from the fact that I registered a whole load of domains that were advertised for sale on his site, which he didn't even own. I did, however, contact him first and give him the chance to rectify that situation before taking them! About three months later he was still promoting the same site advertising the same names so I gave what I considered to be a friendly warning to rectify the matter, which I believe he has now done.

As far as Jeff is concerned, I just put it down to Penis Envy!
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

Articles are used in French URLs.

You think I actually went out and got l’amour without first studying French for over a decade? LOL

Here's a website that isn't just l’amour it is de l’amour.



http://www.delamour.com/

Don't forget



either.

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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

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As you have pointed out it is URLs we are talking about rather than written pros, so conventional languge experts probably wouldn't have a clue as to the rights and wrongs of what to use. Actually, there are no rights and wrongs apart from what is used, and what would be used if it were possible. As this an IDN site for the time being were are generally limited to conjecture about what might happen!
Dave, how can we continue to have a meaningful discussion if you say things like "conventional language experts probably wouldn't have a clue"? The implication is that you do, but for some reason native speakers wouldn't? Take a deep breath please, and realise that sometimes you can be WRONG.

Sorry if I sound snappy but it gets on my nerves when people defend their domain registration decisions past the limits of reason - as I think I've already made clear on other threads - despite what native speakers have been telling them.

And yes, I count myself a "native" French speaker (even though I am slowly getting more rusty through not having French speakers to talk to in Japan) since I learned to speak English and French in parallel, making me bilingual.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread since I don't think it's going to go anywhere...
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And yes, I count myself a "native" French speaker (even though I am slowly getting more rusty through not having French speakers to talk to in Japan) since I learned to speak English and French in parallel, making me bilingual.
Instead of self congratulatory postings about your language ability, how about some analysis of:

Why

• lamonde.fr
• l-hotel.com
• delamour.com

sound unnatural to the "native" speaker, and are bad domains.

I'm still waiting for one of the "native" speakers to answer this question.
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Dave, how can we continue to have a meaningful discussion if you say things like "conventional language experts probably wouldn't have a clue"? The implication is that you do, but for some reason native speakers wouldn't? Take a deep breath please, and realise that sometimes you can be WRONG.

Sorry if I sound snappy but it gets on my nerves when people defend their domain registration decisions past the limits of reason - as I think I've already made clear on other threads - despite what native speakers have been telling them.

And yes, I count myself a "native" French speaker (even though I am slowly getting more rusty) since I learned to speak English and French in parallel, making me bilingual.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread since I don't think it's going to go anywhere...
Edwin, I am sorry, but you have missed my point. A professor of literature is not going to give you the best advise on what domains are most likely to get typed in whether they are in his own language or not. Some of the most typed domains as we well know are actually mispellings. I think the highest priced domains on DNJournal this week actually was a mispelling or mortgage.com.

When it comes to IDN we cannot know what people are typing in. We can only guess at what we feel they will typing in.

I wouldn't class myself as bilingual but I think 5 years of study in French at School at 5 years spent in varioius French work places gives me an adequate background to comment on whether "l'amour" is best translated as "love" or "the love". It is all very well being deeply criticiised by so called native speakers, but a certain knowledge of English, which in this case was obviously lacking is also appropriate!
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That's cool I thought I was the only one registering domains this way a fews days ago I picked up a couple here's one běijīng.com I thought I pick this one up because bejing is changing its street signs to pinyin and rominization full details listed in this blog http://www.pinyin.info/news/
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Re: New Venture! l’amour.net

Wow! Why argue over this?

First of all, how does one enter ’ ? The only way i know of is to create it in Word and then copy to the browser.

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That's cool I thought I was the only one registering domains this way a fews days ago I picked up a couple here's one běijīng.com I thought I pick this one up because bejing is changing its street signs to pinyin and rominization full details listed in this blog http://www.pinyin.info/news/
The one with the accent is not useful as people can't type-in.

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