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How many domains u register per day or week on average?

I wonder if u guys register per day, per week? for the people working registering only on payday? or u just do research and then register a lot that day? I guess u can find as many as u want in a day if u are working on many languages. but yeah i wonder, how many IDNs u register per day or week on average?

I guess for many the budget is the limit or in some cases the gusto to register only generic domains. In my case, not a single day without at least new domains. My new habit.
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I wonder if u guys register per day, per week? for the people working registering only on payday? or u just do research and then register a lot that day? I guess u can find as many as u want in a day if u are working on many languages. but yeah i wonder, how many IDNs u register per day or week on average?

I guess for many the budget is the limit or in some cases the gusto to register only generic domains. In my case, not a single day without at least new domains. My new habit.
Depends how fertile my thoughts are. Yesterday over 200. Today hardly any at all as domainsite.com has been on the blink! Picked up a few drops though at Enom.
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Depends how fertile my thoughts are. Yesterday over 200. Today hardly any at all as domainsite.com has been on the blink! Picked up a few drops though at Enom.
200? those days are over for me, my budget reached his limit. Now for instance, today i took 28, mostly .jp and yesterday only 10. I wish to be back on the game!

By the way, congrats on your ローカル.jp , u forced me to take consolation on ディレクトリ.jp

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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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I wonder if u guys register per day, per week? for the people working registering only on payday? or u just do research and then register a lot that day? I guess u can find as many as u want in a day if u are working on many languages. but yeah i wonder, how many IDNs u register per day or week on average?

I guess for many the budget is the limit or in some cases the gusto to register only generic domains. In my case, not a single day without at least new domains. My new habit.
I register per day. If I see something good, I generally take it on the spot. I am pickier now about what I take as I am pretty satisfied with my portfolio as it is. I am also near my comfort zone with regards to budget, I could ride out the next 2 or 3 years if I had to with what I have got. These days I average probably 5 per day on any given week. If work gets real busy I may go a day or two without regging but usually with a little work developing sites at night.

Hey idnceo what is the IDN gossip among the Japanese domainers and on japanese langauge forums. Is anyone talking about IDN seriously or not? Any transactions etc?
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I register per day. If I see something good, I generally take it on the spot. I am pickier now about what I take as I am pretty satisfied with my portfolio as it is. I am also near my comfort zone with regards to budget, I could ride out the next 2 or 3 years if I had to with what I have got. These days I average probably 5 per day on any given week. If work gets real busy I may go a day or two without regging but usually with a little work developing sites at night.

Hey idnceo what is the IDN gossip among the Japanese domainers and on japanese langauge forums. Is anyone talking about IDN seriously or not? Any transactions etc?
Cmon Rhys, I know you are not living in japan anymore but Im sure u already know well how things are and which websites to visit.

I like your registration numbers, even 5 per day is 150 per month and im sure very good ones.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

I register about 1 or 2 names a day - i register always with the aim to keep for long term, earn from PPC and SEO where possible.

I sell only as a last resort - when i need the cash to buy other names.

Some of my favorite names designated for 5-8 years keep - 日本.TV, 中国.TV.

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Some of my favorite names designated for 5-8 years keep - 日本.TV, 中国.TV.
How do u see your 中国.tv 8 years from now? at the beginning, i was reluctant to value .tv, but now with all the information i have read about iptv, i would say sell me those ones in $X.XXX ! :p kidding, i already know u say $XXX.XXX. But i m sure you will buy a retirement resort in 8 years from now with only 中国.tv My ignorance was huge about iptv on january!
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Yes, if you think about it, the next technological revolution will be iptv - it's a natural progression. It will take time, but it would happen. And when it happens, media companies will start looking for domains - we're looking at a big pocket end user market.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

You people register a lot of names, I wonder if I can ever catch up with you guys, I sometimes wonder how much each of you owns to invest in these IDNs..... I am a student but my 83 domain names looks huge for me.. ..I have been so picky and choosey coz can't waste even one domain name. Till now the IDNs I have bought are exactly what I thought they would be, no mess up, touch wood !!..
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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You people register a lot of names, I wonder if I can ever catch up with you guys, I sometimes wonder how much each of you owns to invest in these IDNs..... I am a student but my 83 domain names looks huge for me....I have been so picky and choosey coz can't waste even one domain name. Till now the IDNs I have bought are exactly what I thought they would be, no mess up, touch wood !!..
I wish i could say all my domains are great, but it is obvious that the more IDN one get, higher odds that some will turn to be great ones. Right now everything is speculation, we can think we have gold but maybe it wont be like that. I bet on the 4 corners, chinese .com and .cn , japanese .jp and .com . Which one will be better .com or cctld? i cant tell, i say that in japan .jp but if it is not, i already have a stock of .com waiting just in case...

i dont want to miss the opportunity for being stubborn thinking im right about .com or .jp .cn or .com, i bet on every corner, that way no matter which side gets higher ROI, ill also win.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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I wish i could say all my domains are great, but it is obvious that the more IDN one get, higher odds that some will turn to be great ones. Right now everything is speculation, we can think we have gold but maybe it wont be like that. I bet on the 4 corners, chinese .com and .cn , japanese .jp and .com . Which one will be better .com or cctld? i cant tell, i say that in japan .jp but if it is not, i already have a stock of .com waiting just in case...

i dont want to miss the opportunity for being stubborn thinking im right about .com or .jp .cn or .com, i bet on every corner, that way no matter which side gets higher ROI, ill also win.
I would say you have a very good strategy.

Yes, right now everything is speculation. Maybe we are just dreaming, but our dream is so beautiful! At the end, if our dream does come true, we have a happy reality, if not, we have a good dream. Bill Gate has a lot of money to buy him a very satisfied reality, but his money cannot guarantee him a good dream at night. So we have nothing to lose, either we will have a beautiful future like Bill's, or a good dream he envies. ---> Let's spend more now and keep dreaming...

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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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I wish i could say all my domains are great, but it is obvious that the more IDN one get, higher odds that some will turn to be great ones. Right now everything is speculation, we can think we have gold but maybe it wont be like that. I bet on the 4 corners, chinese .com and .cn , japanese .jp and .com . Which one will be better .com or cctld? i cant tell, i say that in japan .jp but if it is not, i already have a stock of .com waiting just in case...

i dont want to miss the opportunity for being stubborn thinking im right about .com or .jp .cn or .com, i bet on every corner, that way no matter which side gets higher ROI, ill also win.

I do admire your confidence in chinese.com, but at the same time, you have to be aware of currency differences - the cost of goods in Japan and China differ.

I take an example, when i took the airport coach from Narita to Haneda airport (80-100km journey), a 1 hr journey, the ticket cost me 3000 Yen - my most expensive bus ride ever.

The following year, i took a similar coach ride, but this time from Shanghai's Pudong Airport to Hongqiao airport, also a 80-100km journey 1 hour journey, but this time it cost me 30-35 yuan (can't remember exact).
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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I do admire your confidence in chinese.com, but at the same time, you have to be aware of currency differences - the cost of goods in Japan and China differ.

I take an example, when i took the airport coach from Narita to Haneda airport (80-100km journey), a 1 hr journey, the ticket cost me 3000 Yen - my most expensive bus ride ever.

The following year, i took a similar coach ride, but this time from Shanghai's Pudong Airport to Hongqiao airport, also a 80-100km journey 1 hour journey, but this time it cost me 30-35 yuan (can't remember exact).
In my opinion, the good thing about chinese .cn or .com is that is 100% speculation, u can say whatever price and nobody knows how things will be in 10 years, so higher revenue based purely on the domain and china growth speculation.

On the other hand, in japan things are more clear. But it is true, it is amazing how cheap is to start a campaign on china google, even many famous expensive keywords in japan have only bids of ¥100 in china. I got one idn that have bids bids ¥1900 / ¥2100 in japan and i saw the highest bid is only ¥40 in china but well china got 12 times more people to click.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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I got one idn that have bids bids ¥1900 / ¥2100 in japan and i saw the highest bid is only ¥40 in china but well china got 12 times more people to click.
The answer does not lie on the number of clicks; it's about the quality of a click.

You can get a million free clicks; if no-one buys, they're worthless.
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The answer does not lie on the number of clicks; it's about the quality of a click.

You can get a million free clicks; if no-one buys, they're worthless.

Yes, I am afraid I find this concept of China as a place where nobody actually buys anything a little absurd.

China has more broadband connections, computers and mobile phones than any other country on earth. I am sure the list also extends to TVs and will soon include cars. The average age of what is in circulation is much lower than most Western countries. Consumerism is definitely alive and well in China. Ok, you would appear not to be paying Tokyo prices for the goods, but that gap will narrow substantially with the inevitable exchange rate adjustments. I think the fact that the population is ten times the size will more than compensate for this disparity.

As far as the name space is concerned, I think you will find that this is going to be considerably tighter than Japan, primarily because there is only one form of script rather than the rather complexed combinations that are used in Japan.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

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In my opinion, the good thing about chinese .cn or .com is that is 100% speculation, u can say whatever price and nobody knows how things will be in 10 years, so higher revenue based purely on the domain and china growth speculation.

On the other hand, in japan things are more clear. But it is true, it is amazing how cheap is to start a campaign on china google, even many famous expensive keywords in japan have only bids of ¥100 in china. I got one idn that have bids bids ¥1900 / ¥2100 in japan and i saw the highest bid is only ¥40 in china but well china got 12 times more people to click.

It's not speculation, it's just that the exchange rate is different, so things are lower in price if you use yen.

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The answer does not lie on the number of clicks; it's about the quality of a click.

You can get a million free clicks; if no-one buys, they're worthless.

The PPC we use to park Chinese domains use Chinese advertisers so you can't say they are useless.

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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

My statement was refering to the notion that "since in China online advertising costs less (than Japan in this case) and gets more clicks, threfore it must be better".

Unless you evaluate the cost/income ratio per raw click, you have no way of knowing which market is better, right now. Bad way to run a business, imho.

Future projections regarding domain resale values is another ball-game.

Also, I never said that the Chinese don't buy:

>You can get a million free clicks; if no-one buys, they're worthless<

This is a general statement which is true and applies to any type of traffic, no matter where it's from.
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Re: How many domains u register per day or week on average?

I think on chinese domains u can get a higher speculative value than on japanese ones.

IDN are speculative per se now, but japan economy we all know but china future growth level is something still to be seen, thats why, u dont know if ur domain shop.cn will have in many years the world first economy or a still underdeveloped country to back up ur investment on shop.cn

When u buy shop.jp u know the size and the economy of Japan, no risk but not playing so much on speculation as the case of chinese domains. Exactly like real estate on Shanghai and Beijing, prices are going way too high and all based on pure speculation on the future of China.
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When u buy shop.jp u know the size and the economy of Japan, no risk but not playing so much on speculation as the case of chinese domains. Exactly like real estate on Shanghai and Beijing, prices are going way too high and all based on pure speculation on the future of China.
Domain names' value cannot be measured by the size of the economy alone.

If you compare things this way then you will have:

Size of Economy of the president of Sony corporation = Size of Economy of 1000 Chinese internet users.

-If you sell books online, would you target the president of Sony or 1000 regular users?

-China is developing, the Chinese families are still in the stage of furnishing their homes. Japanese homes have everything they need. Who do you think would have the greater potential purchasing power?

-Chinese domain names will be used by 100 million overseas Chinese too, that will make Chinese domains true global domain names. The demand for Chinese domain names will exceed that of Japanese's.
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The demand for Chinese domain names will exceed that of Japanese's.
Giant, thats exactly my point. For a quick cash, next year looks more promising the japanese ones, but i can wait, japanese ones can pay for the renewall fee of my chinese ones, and who knows in 10 years from now i can cash out the chinese ones very well. Even now, u see high prices on domains on eachnic just based on speculation. The obvious point is once a domain is taken, sayonara domain. I prefer to get my stock of chinese domains now, even when i wont get much PPC out of them as the japanese, later i will.

You own more than 1000 chinese domains, right? Believe me, you are becoming the native chinese domainer i admire the most with another 2 guys from Shanghai i see on chinese forums.
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