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Stupid European Tricks. The .EU landrush fiasco. Europe gets its very own domain name hijacked!

Go Daddy founder and president Bob Parsons.

Europe’s .EU domain is being hijacked!
What happens when you match an inept registry with crafty businessmen? The answer is a really large scam. This is what is taking place with the “landrush” introduction of the new .EU top level domain name. This breaking story is a fascinating study of both grand manipulation and lax administration on the part of the EURid registry.

The landrush was supposed to make the process fair.
It’s important to remember that the purpose of the landrush introduction period of a registry, is to provide a fair way to give everyone an equal chance at getting the really good names that are available early on. To do this, most registries take great pains to set up a level playing field, so that all registrars have an equal chance of getting these good names for their customers.

The requirements to be a .EU registrar were just too easy.
To be a registrar for the .EU registry, companies had to:

1. Attest that they were an individual business entity and were only applying for one registrar accreditation.
2. Attest that they were offering registrations to their customers on an equal basis.
3. Make a deposit of 10,000 euros (about US$12,000).

That was about all it took to be a .EU registrar. There was no verification that .EU registrars were really registrars, or were ICANN accredited. In fact, the EURid registry made no attempt to verify that those who applied to be .EU registrars were really businesses at all.

On paper — to a simple-minded person — it seemed fair.
The landrush process, which began April 7, is a very straightforward matter. Here's how it works: All the accredited registrars line up and each registrar gets to make one request for a .EU domain name. If the name is available, the registrar gets the name for its customer. If the name is not available, the registrar gets nothing. Either way, after making the request, the registrar goes to the back of the line and won't get to make another request, until all the registrars in the line in front of it make their requests. This continues until all requests have been made and the landrush process is over. For example, assume there are four registrars A, B, C and D. A requests a name then goes to the back of the line, then B requests a name, then goes to the back of the line. When B goes to the back of the line, it looks like this C-D-A-B. B will get to make its next request after C, D and A make their requests.

But something was very wrong.
The landrush process on the surface seems very fair. But there was something wrong with the process — very wrong.

There was a flaw in the process. It was too easy to create a registrar.
A few sly companies, the most notorious being a company I’ll call company “X” – which is believed to be backed by North American mega-millionaires — saw a loophole in the process. These companies, instead of only registering their real active registrars, created hundreds of new "phantom" registrars. Two weeks before the landrush period began there were 800 — many real, many not — accredited .EU registrars. Then just before the landrush period began, Voila! Hundreds more registrars appeared. According to the EURid website – at least 300 more registrars appeared. Some legitimate registrars are claiming that the number of bogus registrars could even be much greater than this.

These new phantom registrars were created to hijack the .EU landrush.
These “new – last minute" registrars were engineered to show up just as the windows closed; many had the same phone number, many had no website, and just about all of them seem to have been created to game the .EU landrush process. It’s important to note that none of these last minute registrars could have had time to take any landrush name applications. So the evidence is heavy that they were created for one purpose only —- to game the system.

How Company “X” and others hijacked the system.
During the landrush process, legitimate registrars like GoDaddy.com and others get one request for a .EU name – every time the selection process passes through the list of registrars. Company “X” and others might get to make a hundred or more requests – they get to make a request for every phantom registrar they were able to get accredited by the EURid registry. This increases considerably the likelihood that these companies will get the names that they are after. Legitimate registrars get one request. They might get a hundred or more. Let's go back to my earlier example where I showed how the landrush process worked. Now let's factor in the the phantom registrars that Company "X" and others have injected into the process. My guess is that if there are 1,100 registrars that about 600 of them are phantoms, created solely to game the system. Not all of these are created by Company "X," a number of companies and groups are participating in this ploy. If I represent groups of legitimate registrars by the letters A through E, and those gaming the system by "X" the landrush process would look like this: "X, X, X, X, X, X, A, B, C, D, E." So you see, most of the names in the .EU landrush are falling into the hands of those gaming the systems.

Company “X” will make a fortune at the expense of the Europeans.
For the landrush orders that Company “X” did take, the game works as follow. The .EU names cost them $12.50 each. If the customer is the only one requesting the name, the customer will pay 50 - 75 euros. If more than one customer requests the name, then it is auctioned off – by Company “X” — to the highest bidder. Many of these names will be auctioned off for thousands of dollars. And of course, the likelihood that Company “X” will get these names is good because they were responsible for many of the “phantom” registrars created, and allowed by the registry, specifically for the landrush process. So you see, Company “X” and other companies who have successfully gamed the system should make a fortune on the .EU landrush – all at the expense of the Europeans.

Here’s how the process should have worked.
Now compare this to the deal GoDaddy.com provides its customers. Our orders are taken at $14.75 and are on a "first come, first served" basis. So the first customer that requests a name gets it. No auctions, no scams.

Registrars can also work the landrush for their own account.
There’s also the possibility that Company “X” and other companies participating in this gaming of the .EU landrush will be snapping up good names for their own account to be auctioned off later. After all, we’ve all been in the business for years. It’s not difficult to know what names will prove to be valuable – certainly more than the initial $12.50 registration cost.

The big losers are the Europeans.
The irony of this fiasco is that the primary victims will be the Europeans. Because of the way the EURid registry allowed the landrush process to be gamed, the Europeans will have to pay ultra high premium prices for many of the names they should have had fair access to during the landrush period. This assumes that they’ll be able to get those names to begin with.

We saw this whole thing coming.
Early on, we saw this whole scam coming. We tried to warn the EURid registry that their landrush process was problematic and that there was a large potential for abuse. These warnings fell on deaf ears. There have since been complaints filed by dozens of other legitimate registrars about this process. These complaints have been so numerous that the EURid registry has stopped responding to them. They seem to have simply hunkered down for the storm.

It’s still not too late to fix the problem.
It’s still early enough in the process for the EURid registry to step up and correct the landrush process. Here’s what I suggest that they do:

1. Complete the landrush process.
2. Temporarily freeze all registrations until they can examine all registrars to be sure that they are genuine, and actually are in the business of securing domain registrations.
3. Decredit all registrars that were accredited but did not actually take .EU landrush applications, and were not previously active domain name registrars. This will eliminate hundreds of registrars.
4. Cancel all .EU domain names registered by decredited registrars.
5. Unfreeze the names registered during the original landrush process by the remaining accredited registrars.
6. Conduct a second landrush process for the remaining accredited registrars, allowing everyone access to the cancelled registrations.

I don’t see the EURid stepping up to fix the problem on its own.
The problem with the above fix is that it would take huevos to step up and implement. This is something that we’ve seen little of from the people at the EURid registry. So we can be sure unless some authority in the European community steps up and forces them to do it, they will do nothing.

If you want to write to the EURid registry to express your feelings about the landrush process, you can do so at the following link: http://registrar.eurid.eu/en/shared/...contactUs.html

The Internet needs to stay under U.S. control.
There’s been much talk in Europe about the way the United States has handled the Internet. If the way EURid has bungled the introduction of Europe’s very own domain name is any indication of their Internet management capabilities, we should all hope and pray that the Internet never leaves America’s control.

Posted by Bob Parsons at 11:54, Sunday, April 9. 2006.
A Blog by Go Daddy founder and president Bob Parsons.
http://www.bobparsons.com/StupidEuropeanTricks.html
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Re: EU Landrush Games

ok, that explains why most people that used reputable registrars didn't get much!! You got to apply for the registrar license yourself to get anything significant! :o
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Re: EU Landrush Games

this is the old long story that everything is fair as long as im winning, when im second everything is unfair.

If B.Parsons were so legitimately interested on end-users to get good domains, he wouldnt even entered the auctioning system of expired domains. In fact as a sidenote, i wish ICANN takes off this unfair business from snapnames, pool, etc, etc.; even when i know ICANN will also do a business out of expired domains, at least the governmental control over ICANN is high. Good he couldnt get as many .eu as he wanted it.

Go daddy sucks from his owner to his last customer service representative

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this is the old long story that everything is fair as long as im winning, when im second everything is unfair.
It seems like he knew what was going on, and then failed to create phantom registrars himself to register his customers' domains. How nice to take care of your customers by doing nothing.

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The Internet needs to stay under U.S. control.


Posted by Bob Parsons at 11:54, Sunday, April 9. 2006.
A Blog by Go Daddy founder and president Bob Parsons.
http://www.bobparsons.com/StupidEuropeanTricks.html
Right you are, Bob.

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It seems like he knew what was going on, and then failed to create phantom registrars himself to register his customers' domains. How nice to take care of your customers by doing nothing.
I think the extra expense from creating phantom domains doesn't justify. Those who create phantom domains are not real registrars - they are only taking the names for themselves.
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19543 eu domains for sale on sedo now.

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19543 eu domains for sale on sedo now.
Have you seen most of them?
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Have you seen most of them?
http://www.sedo.co.uk/search/searchr...id=&language=e

A lot of good domains.

Go Daddy had many many phantom registrars themselves. What they are trying to do now is deflect attention from their poor performance.


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It seems like he knew what was going on, and then failed to create phantom registrars himself to register his customers' domains. How nice to take care of your customers by doing nothing.
He didnt do anything because godaddy still got paid , people are complaining like hell about the 5 dollar hidden fee's charges ..... thats a sad situation and it should really be fixed , glad im a Idner and dont have to stress over this
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I think there's a small, maybe 20% chance they are going to redo the dot EU launch....

Those of you thinking of buying any dot EU off the market, may want to hold back a little first. If they are going to relaunch, you might only get back a one domain "credit".

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Well Bob owes me for 40+ failed registrations that are still sitting in my account, all with someone else's name on the whois.

The 'good' news is that ...."
I apologize for the confusion regarding this issue. Currently we are awaiting a response from the .eu registry regarding the domains in question. If we are unable to retrieve the domains you will automatically receive a refund for any domains in which we could not retrieve.

Please let us know if we can assist you in any other way...."

I have since registered a few other .eu's with them and they have all been taking 8-12 hours from acceptance of the order to them showing as 'active' in my account.

All the failed registration attempts were made at the beginning of the landrush.

If my GD account were a true reflection of names that I actually own Id be a very happy bunny!

I also noticed the few I have registered and are active show a mix of GD and Wildwest as the registrar...

I didnt have high expetations for the launch and would have been happy with 1 sucessful registration. *Ho Hum*

As for them re-doing the launch I cant see it happening.

I see poker.eu is on sedo. How can they be selling it when it is still in the 40 day limbo?

Yellow Register On Line AB are the owners (Whoever they are!)
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Poker.eu in no longer showing on sedo. They have redraw it.

The Poker.eu was registered during the sunrise. You see, they took care of all the paperworks to properly garantee that their precious trade mark "poker" was registered and secure by them, and avoid cybersquaters. LOL

What i just don't get is: Am I the only one seeing this? Is it so hard to notice the complete scam, fraud and fiasco involved?

GoDaddy CEO is crying because he didn't got a nice share of the pie.
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Hi.

Process of registration was ok.

even 3 days after the landrush we could register following eu:


www.gratuiciels.eu (or freewares)
www.machineasous.eu (slot machine)
www.sourires.eu (smiles)
www.videodrole.eu (funny video)

and without sunrise bureaucratie:

societa.eu (company in Italian)
movel.eu (mobile in portuguese)
carregar.eu (download in portuguese)

All now under www.domainerie.eu

Ciao

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