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Old 17th April 2006, 04:45 AM
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Yeah I own TV too

Since others have been talking about .tv, I'll state for the record that I believe that .tv is pure speculation. Development is required and real value is several years away. Nonetheless, I know that .tv is not completely unknown among Japanese domains even today and I clearly see the potential. I placed a few bets down on .tv back in February and here are some of them. I'm in for the long haul. Thoughts?

エッチ.tv slang for "sex" OVT 634254
風俗.tv name for a place to receive sex services, like "brothel" OVT 804311
旅行.tv "travel"
料理.tv "cooking"
天気.tv "weather"
映画.tv "movie"
音楽.tv "music"

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Old 17th April 2006, 04:51 AM
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Great Names !! is my only thought...
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Old 17th April 2006, 06:47 AM
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Re: Yeah I own TV too

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Since others have been talking about .tv, I'll state for the record that I believe that .tv is pure speculation. Development is required and real value is several years away. Nonetheless, I know that .tv is not completely unknown among Japanese domains even today and I clearly see the potential. I placed a few bets down on .tv back in February and here are some of them. I'm in for the long haul. Thoughts?

エッチ.tv slang for "sex" OVT 634254
風俗.tv name for a place to receive sex services, like "brothel" OVT 804311
旅行.tv "travel"
料理.tv "cooking"
天気.tv "weather"
映画.tv "movie"
音楽.tv "music"

Names are great, but one thing, writeoff 3 year's registration fee, wait out.
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Re: Yeah I own TV too

I have some .tv' also and have accepted that they either need developing or settle in for the long haul.
Someone made a good point on this forum about extending the registration now for another 2, 3 or 5 years so that when the registrars get wind of how *fantastic* they are gonna be and jack the prices at least you wont have to pay it...
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Old 17th April 2006, 07:16 AM
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I have some .tv' also and have accepted that they either need developing or settle in for the long haul.
Someone made a good point on this forum about extending the registration now for another 2, 3 or 5 years so that when the registrars get wind of how *fantastic* they are gonna be and jack the prices at least you wont have to pay it...

I think it will still be a long way to go before IDN.TV get jacked up.

In any case, they would first jack up the prices of names like www.china.tv - it's an error page - so i can't imagine an owner not having a proper site for a jacked up domain.
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Is there anything that protect domain owners from unreasonable price jacks? I think it's crammy when you do all the work developing a domain, then have to pay a ransom to continue to use it. :o
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Old 17th April 2006, 08:18 AM
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Is there anything that protect domain owners from unreasonable price jacks? I think it's crammy when you do all the work developing a domain, then have to pay a ransom to continue to use it. :o
Effectively Verisign is saying that they have done the speculation on this one, and that the extension is intended only for affluent end users. Why would anyone want to speculate under those conditions?
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Effectively Verisign is saying that they have done the speculation on this one, and that the extension is intended only for affluent end users. Why would anyone want to speculate under those conditions?

Well, let's put it this way, it's a chicken and egg thing, by the time Verisign acknowledges that your domain is worth money for a jack up - you'll probably made it - your domain would have appreciated 1000 times.

Of course, to counter this move, as what mulligan has said, it might be wise to register for 3-8 years at a go for "valuable names" just before Verisign makes it's move. At the moment, with probably less than 500 idn.tv registered, i do not see how Verisign would kill off idn.tv by jacking up prices.

This talk about jacking up is too early.

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I have always feared verisign increasing the reg. fee, I am fine with reg. my names for 10 years if that helps (if that helps), I am pretty confident about my names and the IDNs, but not the reg. fee.

I think this is one serious question we .TV IDN holders should answer.
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I have always feared verisign increasing the reg. fee, I am fine with reg. my names for 10 years if that helps (if that helps), I am pretty confident about my names and the IDNs, but not the reg. fee.

I think this is one serious question we .TV IDN holders should answer.
Yes, if you end up paying $50K a year in reg fees that takes a serious chunk, may be as much as $500K out of the value of the domain.
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Re: Yeah I own TV too

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I have always feared verisign increasing the reg. fee, I am fine with reg. my names for 10 years if that helps (if that helps), I am pretty confident about my names and the IDNs, but not the reg. fee.

I think this is one serious question we .TV IDN holders should answer.

Please take a look at www.china.tv, it's registered by someone in China since 2000, tell me if you think he is paying a jack up fee. After you have seen the site, you can tell us what you think.

Should IDNs and .TV take off, i'm prepared to register my best names for 15 years if that's possible, that will settle the jack up problem. It's as simple as that. What's 15 years fee cost? 15 x $35 = $525.

And will people think about what happens after 15 years? No. Probably birdflu or nuclear bomb planted by terrorists would have wiped out one third of the world in 15 years.

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Re: Yeah I own TV too

I know its a crappy site, but probably he is paying a high reg. fee hoping to sell it to some end user for a really high value. I know a lot of people doing that.

But, anyway I am sure we will know in advance when they jack up, so lets keep the liquidity, and reg. these names for a long time when we get to know.
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I know its a crappy site, but probably he is paying a high reg. fee hoping to sell it to some end user for a really high value. I know a lot of people doing that.

But, anyway I am sure we will know in advance when they jack up, so lets keep the liquidity, and reg. these names for a long time when we get to know.

How do you know his name is jacked up?
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Old 17th April 2006, 09:16 AM
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I own a lot of ascii .TV domains both premium and non premium, if its a premium name then it is reg. by versign, verisign does not give whois info. about .tv domains not registered through them, when I checked for www.china.tv in www.tv , it gave the whois data, so dat means it has been reg. by them. I think the annual reg. fee for this domain would be definetly greater than > $10000

Elequa owns a lot of premium .tv's which he has parked with no development. He believes that .tv will be the future of the internet.
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Elequa owns a lot of premium .tv's which he has parked with no development. He believes that .tv will be the future of the internet.
He may be right, but that doesn't mean that he will necessarily be rich. If Verisign turn the screws the domains may be worth a fortune, but he may end up with next to nothing.
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I own a lot of ascii .TV domains both premium and non premium, if its a premium name then it is reg. by versign, verisign does not give whois info. about .tv domains not registered through them, when I checked for www.china.tv in www.tv , it gave the whois data, so dat means it has been reg. by them. I think the annual reg. fee for this domain would be definetly greater than > $10000

Elequa owns a lot of premium .tv's which he has parked with no development. He believes that .tv will be the future of the internet.

But www.tv does not even support idns....

Anyway, i took a look at my .tvs, i could extend their registration till 2017 for about $300 more.

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He may be right, but that doesn't mean that he will necessarily be rich. If Verisign turn the screws the domains may be worth a fortune, but he may end up with next to nothing.
He is already rich...He owns a lot more domains other than .TV,


WWW.tv doesnot support IDN .tv's but as verisign has the marketing rights for .tv's so it can take it up any time, and www.china.tv is not an idn and I am definite that it is a premium reg.
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Re: Yeah I own TV too

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He is already rich...He owns a lot more domains other than .TV,


WWW.tv doesnot support IDN .tv's but as verisign has the marketing rights for .tv's so it can take it up any time, and www.china.tv is not an idn and I am definite that it is a premium reg.

So, what do you suggest? Extend to the max 10 years?
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I suggest lets wait till IE 7, then lets change our strategies. It will deifntely take some time for versign to figure out what is premium in the IDN sector.
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WWW.tv doesnot support IDN .tv's but as verisign has the marketing rights for .tv's so it can take it up any time, and www.china.tv is not an idn and I am definite that it is a premium reg.
I'm a bit confused by this. Doesn't Verisign own .tvs? I registered my .tvs at discountdomain24, does this mean Verisign doesn't control my domains?
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